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JTinker92
7th May 2013, 18:21
I have found a larvae off some kind and dont know what to do what kind of water do i use and any other info need i have him in a Styrofoam cup in the fridge plz help me out i can get an aquarium but should i use tap water or what?

ThoseNewtsTho
7th May 2013, 20:30
Aged Tap Water(Get Rid Of The Chlorine But Make Sure The Water Has No chloromine) or Tap Water with Dechlorinator from a petstore. Pictures of it? And I Wouldnt keep It in a styrafoam cup.

JTinker92
8th May 2013, 01:22
yeah i plane on getting pictures but i have to find a charger for my camera first but i did pu him in a little gold fish bowl with pond water that had micro bugs he/she has been eating and pooing like crazy i also went out and put live pond plants in there to give off oxygen..

JTinker92
8th May 2013, 15:55
how do you post pics i took some off my moms iphne
and put them in my files on computer

ThoseNewtsTho
8th May 2013, 21:29
Make a post > Click the paperclip near the smiley face > Hit choose file > Pick the picture(s) > Hit upload(the upload button in the same box thing the choose file thing is) > On the bottom of that little screen it has a percentage, when its done uploading the file on the screen will say Choose file again, then you can close it, and post your post P:

JTinker92
9th May 2013, 00:48
ok thanks :o

JTinker92
9th May 2013, 01:24
and i set up this little set up made from one of those small plastic critter keepers and my wife put some odor and cloudiness clearer in there is he still ok to be put in there i was not sure so i kept him in his fish bowl

ThoseNewtsTho
9th May 2013, 19:49
"I believe it is a long toed sal larvae but not positive. And for the critter keeper I would just go with only tap water and dechlorinator. When it starts morphing provide a land area so a slope of sand, put something under the tank on one end or Ike a dock. The critter keeper would be better than a fishbowl, prefferably the bigger critter keepers. Try feeding little pieces of earthworm or night crawlers

JTinker92
10th May 2013, 00:22
ok i did put him in the critter keeper and went back down and found a big puddle with alot of tiny bugs and mequito larva in it for him to live in and saved some rain water i also bought some blood worm at pet store for him to eat he loves them but what made you think long toed salamander?

ThoseNewtsTho
10th May 2013, 00:59
Just an assumption by the way it looks, ask some one in the 'In the Pond' Chat.

JTinker92
10th May 2013, 19:24
oh how big do those get

ThoseNewtsTho
10th May 2013, 20:40
Not very large, around 3.5 inches

JTinker92
11th May 2013, 13:14
yeah he finally got his back legs developed when should i start having to put someting for him to climb on for when he morphs

ThoseNewtsTho
11th May 2013, 14:38
It might take a while, they don't morph right when they get all their legs, could be months

JTinker92
11th May 2013, 15:07
i didnt see the long toed listed in the local sals but here is the sight with all types look through it and tell me what you think im pretty sure he came from the kaskaskia river. IL Herpetology Species List | Illinois Natural History Survey | Illinois (http://www.inhs.uiuc.edu/animals_plants/herps/ilspecies.html)

ThoseNewtsTho
11th May 2013, 17:03
Thenn, Im not Entirely sure, so I would just ask the people in the In The Pond chat

JTinker92
11th May 2013, 18:00
i did when i first got him i think it just to early they all look the same but im guessing either a marble or a spotted. they said he was too small to be a tiger salamander so im niot sure guess we will find out when he morphs llol the anticipation is killing me:wacko: but when he does morph ill post pics cuz i still will probly not know what he is im just glad i found him when i did cuz the river went beck down and the puddle he was in is pretty well dry and idk what would of happened to him i have been looking to raise a larva for some time they are just soo cute at this phase i love to watch him swim. he grows more and more ever couple hours it seems these thing are amazing to watch.:D

ThoseNewtsTho
11th May 2013, 19:32
Im gonna take a wild guess, and guess Marbled

JTinker92
11th May 2013, 19:55
got a few more pics now that he has back legs

ThoseNewtsTho
11th May 2013, 20:29
You're gonna wanna do frequent water changed(like daily). Instead of feeding water bugs, i would run to a bait store/petstore/walmart and pick up some night crawlers or earthworms and drop it in front of its head of feed with tweezers. To keep your water clean and the salamander alive. and make sure your dechlorinating his water.

ThoseNewtsTho
11th May 2013, 20:35
It may be a 4 Toed Salamander based on the line near his eye but i could be wrong

JTinker92
11th May 2013, 21:21
yeah like i said to me all larva look the same at that size when he morphs i will get a pic to post that will be the only way to know for sure but as for the water i just added more fresh water but idk if he is big enough for a night crawler but i did buy him some frozen cubes of redworms or some like and he was swimming around with it in his mouth lol it was longer than him but he managed to get it down.i used half pond water and half purified babywater and used some decloride too just for safety but i just want to say i really appreciate the help:D

ThoseNewtsTho
11th May 2013, 21:28
I wouldnt use the pond water, or the baby water, i would just take tap water and use the dechlorinator you get in petstores.

JTinker92
12th May 2013, 02:07
alright i will do that and when should i put him in something bigger.

ThoseNewtsTho
12th May 2013, 02:46
Well when he gets bigger or now. The bigger the better

Kaysie
12th May 2013, 15:35
I would use pond water.

What habitat was it collected in? A vernal pond? Permanent? Flowing water?

I'm thinking it's a Noto, but it's hard to tell. I don't think it's an opacum; they have all 4 legs early in the season. In So.Ill, they're already 2+ inches by April.

JTinker92
12th May 2013, 22:21
yeah i got this 20 gallon tank u use to use for angel fish im thinking of setting up for him. and to answer kaysies question i cant be for sure where he actually came from all of southern illinois has had really bad flooding i think the river carried him from some where but when the river started to go down a little it went through the woods and about 15 yards from the river he was in this hole that some ATVS made that was about 2 foot deep in the middle i flipped over a tire and there he was couldnt believe my eyes he was only 3/4 of an inch then and only had front legs. but what is the common name of what you think it is?

Kaysie
13th May 2013, 02:43
I doubt the river carried it. Amphibians will lay in any puddle of standing water. I've seen peepers lay in road ruts.

Notos are Notopthalmus viridescens. I've seen them all over down there.

Does it have all of it's back toes yet?

JTinker92
13th May 2013, 02:54
im not sure i can see three toes for sure but thats all for now but what im saying is he was the only one and there was water flowing through the woods like a little creek right through his hole and i went back multiple times and never seen another and befor that the hole woods was flooded idk for sure but you think it an eastern newt right? do they live in all aquatic or on land.

Kaysie
13th May 2013, 03:10
Their life is complicated. They go through a 2-7 year terrestrial period before going aquatic again.

I'm not 100% sold on Noto though. They have a distinct eye-stripe, and it's hard to tell with this guy. I looked through your pics again and thinking maybe a spotted sal. You might just have to wait.

JTinker92
13th May 2013, 03:15
im not sure i can see three toes for sure but thats all for now but what im saying is he was the only one and there was water flowing through the woods like a little creek right through his hole and i went back multiple times and never seen another and befor that the hole woods was flooded idk for sure but you think it an eastern newt right? do they live in all aquatic or on land.
i believe you may be right looked up some pics on bing and found one that looks alot like him

JTinker92
13th May 2013, 03:16
here is what he looks like but with smaller eyesand not a defined stripe like that either

ThoseNewtsTho
8th June 2013, 14:41
Any changes?