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Hi, i finally registered to this site as i have a question. I have an axolotl called P!nk. She must be 3,5 years old. Her friend sadly passed away last summer during a continuous heatwave and my inability, even with regular waterchanges and icebottles, to make the temperature of the tank sink:( now P!nk has something as well and i do not want to lose her as well:( i need to buy test tubes tomorrow as i just have strips but they do jot seem too accurate reading posts here. So P!nk has had something weird coming out of her anus, like filaments... She has been refusing pellets and frozen brineshrimps/bloodworms or brineshrimps/bloodworms in tube, se has just been eating live food for weeks now. She is very skinny, has always been, but when it come to livefood, she is a good eater! She ate quite a few worms today which made me happy but im thinking: shall i feed her much? Due to this problem, i am scared to make her constipated but as she is so skinny i want to feed her...
What could her problem be?
I dont think there are axolotl specialised vets here.... The most exotic pets you find is turtles... So I'm asking you guys what you think and what i should do.
Thank you for your replies
Ps: she's got a very big tank (120cm wide), is alone in it, sand substrate but snail plage I'm working on at the moment. 1/4 water change every week, according to atrips, parameters are good...food: live worms or bloodworms, water temp:18/19degrees C.
 

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Diarrhoea? Prolapse? Something else?
 

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Here is P!nk
 

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Not sure what to tell you about what is coming out of her anus, hard for me to tell from the picture.

But to help fatten her up you could try some waxworms. They won't constipate her due to their high fat content and if she already has a constipation issue the waxworms will help with that too.
 
Hi, thank you, i will try, i used to give them waxworms but then i read that the hard shell (is it chitin?) was hard to digest so I stopped. i will look for some tomorrow while I am buying the test tubes.
What comes out of her is whitish transparent and sometimes, a bit of it drops... Now its getting a bit brownish,... Its soft and looks like filaments...
It's the best pictures I managed to get from it, it is hard to describe, I have no clue what it is.
 
The white stuff you saw was most likely waxworm remains - I've seen another user whose axolotls would sometimes vomit white mush, which turned out to be waxworm chitin. Brown poop is good - it should look like brown pellets.

My advice would be to keep feeding her earthworms if at all possible. They're soft and can bulk out her tummy if she is having trouble excreting the waxworm - it'll soften her poops so they don't hurt as much. Earthworms are also good for plumping them up and contain a good balance of nutrients :)
 
Hi, why? Because she is so skinny? Or because of the problem i refered to?
She has always been small and skinny, the other was bigger so in summer i was always scared that she might not make it and it was the other one that passed away. I try to fatten her up but she does not seem to do.
Could you tell me what would be the amount of worms to feed her per day or per week? Maybe I'm underestimating their appetite, I don't know...
 
The stomach should be as wide as the head. I'd feed one earthworm a day until she's fattened up and then cut down to perhaps one every other day. The warmer their temp, the more food they need as they will be digesting the food quicker.
 
Hi, thank you for your reply, but I´m even more concerned now:( She does eat 1-2 worms a day, today she ate 7 small ones and is still hungry:/ Never gave her 7 before but my bf told me to feed her as long as she was hungry as if she has a problem she would need the energy from food to fight it off...
Shall I just give her one?
She´ll fade away. I know she is really thin, she has always been. The other was bigger so I was a bit scared thinking he would eat her food but it did not improve after his death altho I feed her and she is eating it.
One earthworm a day is less then I am feeding her at the moment. Might there be an other problem why she is so thin then?
 
I have her in the corridor, in my entrance (only spot with no direct sunlight, to keep the temp down) I look at her at least 10 times a day, I´ve had her for 3,5 years and as she´s been that thin I´ve been trying to fatten her up from the beginning,I´m certainly not letting her waste away, that´s not how I am with animals. My bunny is even slightly overweight, my dog is normal weight, but I just don´t know what is wrong with her. I was told I should feed her frozen or live bloodworms so I gave her around 10 pellets for axolotl and half a cube of frozen bloodworms. Then I read they would eat earthworms I fed her 1 earthworm and pellets, sometimes frozen or live bloodworms. Now she refuses to eat pellets or the frozen food she has 1, 2 worms a day...
Now I´m reading about 1 worm every other day I´m really shocked at her appearance as she should be quite fat then:/

But the problem that still concerns me, is what comes out of her (photos). I don´t know if I´d go to a vet that has seen turtles... so it would be nice if someone could identify what the problem is or give me solutions what to do... I´m really scared for her:(
 
I think (correct me if I'm wrong) there seems to be some confusion with MEALworms and WAXworms here, mealworms are the ones with the hard exoskeleton that doesn't digest, waxworms are very squishy, the only thing hard about them is their head, and if you're concerned about that you can cut off it's head before feeding (never tried this, might be messy?)

As for the earthworms, I also think we may all be thinking about different sized earth worms as well (they come in tons of sizes) I feed my axolotl a LARGE canadian earthworm every other day (this worm is long and FAT, longer even than my axie is at 10") so I think you couldn't be feeding your axie 6-7 of THESE a day could you!?

I do agree with them needing more to eat if it's warmer (from what I've read) so I would maybe feed her those 6-7 a couple times a day, this way you're giving her time to digest and hopefully avoiding the regurgitating by eating too much.

I can't offer much by ways of what is coming out of her anus, tho it does look like she could be constipated, I would recommend some WAXworms, maybe 2-3 a day between meals?

I am by no means an expert, I've just read a ton about these guys, good luck to your little lady =)
 
Hmm, feeding that much should fatten her up. It is definitely worth trying waxworms. They are really fatty and could help gain weight. As stated above, waxworms are ok (although shouldn't be fed as a staple diet) and mealworms are the ones to avoid.

I don't really have any other suggestion, someone with more experience might come along and shed some insight. Otherwise you could ask on the forum chat when it's busy.
 
I think (correct me if I'm wrong) there seems to be some confusion with MEALworms and WAXworms here, mealworms are the ones with the hard exoskeleton that doesn't digest, waxworms are very squishy, the only thing hard about them is their head, and if you're concerned about that you can cut off it's head before feeding (never tried this, might be messy?)

As for the earthworms, I also think we may all be thinking about different sized earth worms as well (they come in tons of sizes) I feed my axolotl a LARGE canadian earthworm every other day (this worm is long and FAT, longer even than my axie is at 10") so I think you couldn't be feeding your axie 6-7 of THESE a day could you!?

I do agree with them needing more to eat if it's warmer (from what I've read) so I would maybe feed her those 6-7 a couple times a day, this way you're giving her time to digest and hopefully avoiding the regurgitating by eating too much.

I can't offer much by ways of what is coming out of her anus, tho it does look like she could be constipated, I would recommend some WAXworms, maybe 2-3 a day between meals?

I am by no means an expert, I've just read a ton about these guys, good luck to your little lady =)

Hi, you are right, i did mix up mealworms with wax worms.
For the worms I feed Lumbricus terrestris - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The 7 I fed P!nk yesterday were 2-5 cm long. Most of them are between 5-15 cm,
 
I will try to find a shop that sells waxworm. How many is a good portion per day?
This is the amount she would typically eat a day, every day.
 

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I would say one of the worms I feed every other day is probably 3-4 times that size they are these and I wouldn't be afraid to bet they are 15" (38cm) long and FAT, nasty things, I don't even touch them so you won't be seeing me holding one in a picture for a size comparison haha I would trying feeding her that amount a couple times a day and see how she does, if she's not regurgitating them then try a 3rd time daily. She can't be "overfed" for now, when her tummy isn't the size of her head, so as long as she's keeping them in I'd say you're good to go getting her as much as she can take (if I'm wrong on this please correct me)
 
I will try to find a shop that sells waxworm. How many is a good portion per day?
This is the amount she would typically eat a day, every day.

Whilst you are trying to fatten her up with waxworms, feed her a couple of times a day and give her as much as she will eat within 5 mins :D

When her tummy is the same width as her head, you should switch back to earthworms, then you can either feed her a little bit daily or you can feed her bigger portions every 2-3 days.

If those are your earthworms i would feed her two to three of the bigger ones or 5-6 of the little ones at a time she will start to fatten up in a couple of days, good luck!
 
Thank you everyone, I will.
Going to the vets today...:/
 
Thank you everyone, I will.
Going to the vets today...:/

Back from vets: axolotl not happy due to transport, me freezing due to minimum temp in the car to keep water cool. According to vets it would be diarrhoea, so i should not try to fatten her up at the moment until we know which internal problems she has. He took that away from anus saying in a few days i need to send pinks poo in to analyze. He thought she would not poo anymore today as she was empty as he took it out. After 45 minutes on road her box is full of that weird think, and her bum again... Can that be diarrhoea? So much?
 
That is it... Loads coming out. Now is that diarrhoea? What can i do against it? While i m waiting until i sent it in? Guess if i give her waxworms now it might make it worse?
 

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