kjnorman
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Hi everyone.
About 6 weeks ago I purchased two leucistic, adult axies, a breeding pair of male and female.
The person I bought them from had been keeping African clawed frogs in the same tank (?!), and both axies had some gill/toe damage as a result.
The male had significantly more gill damage than the female though.
Right from the start, the female has been healthy and active. Her gills have grown in to a beautiful frill, and she eats like a pig.
The male has always been less active. At first I assumed it was because his gills were so damaged that he had limited oxygen exchange, but as his gills have (slowly) started to grow back, he has not improved.
If anything he is more lethargic.
At first he had a good appetite, but a few weeks ago he went off his worms (red wigglers). I had read somewhere that they could eat small amount of lean chicken, so I shaved a piece off a frozen chicken breast, thawed it in warm water, and fed it to him with tweezers, and he gobbled that up. He also is happy to eat bloodworms. There are a few rosy reds in the tank, and one disappears overnight every couple days, but I think the active female is eating them.
This morning when I went to turn on the light in their tank, I noticed he was in almost exactly the same spot as he had been last night, and his gills were looking very pale. I poked him with the turkey baster I use to feed him bloodworms and he didn't react. I thought he had died!
However, when I went to bring him to the surface for closer examination (I have a pair of soft silicone kitchen tongs that I sometimes use for feeding, and I was going to gently scoop him up with those), he did move a leg, so I left him alone.
I immediately did a partial (10%?) water change, and added a bubbler and airstone to the tank. I also floated a plastic baggie with a few ice cubes in the tank to cool it down, but I'm not sure they made a difference in the tank as it is large.
After a few minutes, I noticed he had moved on his own, and seemed to be interested in what I was doing, so I thawed some bloodworms and offered them to him. He ate a few mouthfuls from the turkey baster. Since then he seems to have perked up a bit, swam around a bit, and his gills have more colour.
I was reading a couple other forums where people describe their axies 'playing dead' and then being fine, so that was reassuring, but in light of his general pickiness with food and low energy, I am still concerned.
Some basic info:
The two axies are about 2 years old. I have them in a 50 gallon tank with a regular aquaclear filter. They were purchased with the tank and filter, so the bacteria were already established. There is a light and a few java ferns in the tank, as well as some artificial plants and a hide. Substrate is part sand, park river rocks, and part bare. There are a few small gravel bits mixed into the sand from the previous setup of the person I bought them from, but they are quite small (< 5mm), and I have seen the female pick one up and easily spit it out right away.
Temperature is room temperature - between 17 C and 20C depending on whether the heat is on. Tank gets only diffuse sunlight.
I don't have a water test kit (may go get one today), but the other axolotl and the rosy reds are fine.
Any ideas as to what the 'playing dead' episode may have been, and what to do about a picky eater who is also lethargic?
Aside from the damaged gills, he has no other visible symptoms, and so far seems to be at a good weight.
About 6 weeks ago I purchased two leucistic, adult axies, a breeding pair of male and female.
The person I bought them from had been keeping African clawed frogs in the same tank (?!), and both axies had some gill/toe damage as a result.
The male had significantly more gill damage than the female though.
Right from the start, the female has been healthy and active. Her gills have grown in to a beautiful frill, and she eats like a pig.
The male has always been less active. At first I assumed it was because his gills were so damaged that he had limited oxygen exchange, but as his gills have (slowly) started to grow back, he has not improved.
If anything he is more lethargic.
At first he had a good appetite, but a few weeks ago he went off his worms (red wigglers). I had read somewhere that they could eat small amount of lean chicken, so I shaved a piece off a frozen chicken breast, thawed it in warm water, and fed it to him with tweezers, and he gobbled that up. He also is happy to eat bloodworms. There are a few rosy reds in the tank, and one disappears overnight every couple days, but I think the active female is eating them.
This morning when I went to turn on the light in their tank, I noticed he was in almost exactly the same spot as he had been last night, and his gills were looking very pale. I poked him with the turkey baster I use to feed him bloodworms and he didn't react. I thought he had died!
However, when I went to bring him to the surface for closer examination (I have a pair of soft silicone kitchen tongs that I sometimes use for feeding, and I was going to gently scoop him up with those), he did move a leg, so I left him alone.
I immediately did a partial (10%?) water change, and added a bubbler and airstone to the tank. I also floated a plastic baggie with a few ice cubes in the tank to cool it down, but I'm not sure they made a difference in the tank as it is large.
After a few minutes, I noticed he had moved on his own, and seemed to be interested in what I was doing, so I thawed some bloodworms and offered them to him. He ate a few mouthfuls from the turkey baster. Since then he seems to have perked up a bit, swam around a bit, and his gills have more colour.
I was reading a couple other forums where people describe their axies 'playing dead' and then being fine, so that was reassuring, but in light of his general pickiness with food and low energy, I am still concerned.
Some basic info:
The two axies are about 2 years old. I have them in a 50 gallon tank with a regular aquaclear filter. They were purchased with the tank and filter, so the bacteria were already established. There is a light and a few java ferns in the tank, as well as some artificial plants and a hide. Substrate is part sand, park river rocks, and part bare. There are a few small gravel bits mixed into the sand from the previous setup of the person I bought them from, but they are quite small (< 5mm), and I have seen the female pick one up and easily spit it out right away.
Temperature is room temperature - between 17 C and 20C depending on whether the heat is on. Tank gets only diffuse sunlight.
I don't have a water test kit (may go get one today), but the other axolotl and the rosy reds are fine.
Any ideas as to what the 'playing dead' episode may have been, and what to do about a picky eater who is also lethargic?
Aside from the damaged gills, he has no other visible symptoms, and so far seems to be at a good weight.