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john 5th May 2006 02:11

William Jones just recently completed this beautiful piece of work:

http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/S...ra_guide.shtml

I urge everyone to take a look and enjoy.

kieron 5th May 2006 11:19

WOW well done will that is rellay good saved it to my fav's lol keep up the good work

christian 29th May 2006 18:23

Really nice article, now we can clearly see the beauty of Salamandra's.

vicky_rut 16th July 2006 02:35

<font color="aa00aa"> Heck!
I thought I had s.s.salamander, now
I am not sure *blushes*
might even be terrestris, not sure now
*starts biting nails* </font>

joseph 16th July 2006 13:16

Wow! Great job on that Will!

jennifer 17th July 2006 03:21

Vicky, if you do not know the locality where your Salamandra came from, it may never be possible to know with certainty which subspecies they are.

kamil 17th July 2006 07:27

Hi,

still there are mistakes in the S. atra part. S. a. prenjensis is not a valid subspecies anymore and the new subspecies S. atra pasubiensis is not listed.

Best greetings,

Kamil

william 17th July 2006 17:40

hehe It was only a matter of time before a mistake was discovered http://www.caudata.org/forum/clipart/lol.gif

Kamil- do you have any literature on prenjensis? or pasubiensis for that matter! I knew that prenjensis was slightly dodgey but i hadn't seen any articles on it.

thank you for your kind words everyone else

(Message edited by will_j on July 17, 2006)

kamil 17th July 2006 20:52

Hello William,

pasubiensis was described in:

Evolution of the melanistic colour in the Alpine salamander Salamandra atra as revealed by a new subspecies from the Venetian Prealps. This was published by Lucio Bonato and Sebastian Steinfartz in the Italian Journal of Zoology, 72: 253 - 260 (2005)

Best Greetings,

Kamil

frank 18th July 2006 08:48

Hi William,

Maybe you can add this picture of a S. s. werneri.

http://www.caudata.org/forum/messages/13/67824.jpg

frank 18th July 2006 08:59

And maybe this S s almanzoris can also be added.

http://www.caudata.org/forum/messages/13/67827.jpg

vicky_rut 1st August 2006 23:16

<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>Quoting Jennifer Macke on Monday 17 July 2006 - 04:21 (#POST101270):</font>

<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
<font color="aa00aa">I see, then that's that, I still have very
cute salamanders http://www.caudata.org/forum/clipart/happy.gif </font>

jennifer 3rd August 2006 22:44

Frank, thank you for the photos! Will, can you please assemble an exact list of what needs to be changed in the article?

kamil 15th September 2006 16:08

Nice that you added Pasubiensis now!

michael 15th September 2006 17:43

Hi William,

Maybe you can add these two pictures of S.a.tingitana &amp; S.i.semenovi, here too please?

http://www.feuersalamander.com/image.../tingitana.jpg

http://www.feuersalamander.com/imagesboard/semenovi.jpg

Greetings Michael ...

Blackbun 22nd June 2017 08:56

Re: Beautiful species/subspecies guide for Salamandra
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by william (Post 56710)
hehe It was only a matter of time before a mistake was discovered http://www.caudata.org/forum/clipart/lol.gif

Kamil- do you have any literature on prenjensis? or pasubiensis for that matter! I knew that prenjensis was slightly dodgey but i hadn't seen any articles on it.

thank you for your kind words everyone else

(Message edited by will_j on July 17, 2006)



http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/1...50000509356680

beefsteak 6th March 2018 06:15

Re: Beautiful species/subspecies guide for Salamandra
 
Allmost looking like the one bernardezi and galaica teratoies overlap so just wondering if iit could hapen in ones home why not?

John 6th March 2018 06:19

Re: Beautiful species/subspecies guide for Salamandra
 
Not following you John. Can you elaborate?

beefsteak 6th March 2018 06:25

Re: Beautiful species/subspecies guide for Salamandra
 
Hey ya sorry if thier teratoies overlap in nature why not in my home do you follow?

beefsteak 6th March 2018 06:57

Re: Beautiful species/subspecies guide for Salamandra
 
My question is why if the spiecies overlap why is there no crossed subspiecies of the two?


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