My new pyrrho - identification needed !

Hi,

I got a new monster saturday !

Could you guys telle me your guess about which sex and subspecie it is ?

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- Mark

Ok :-(
I'll correct this tonight.
For now you can see the pictures following this link :

Ma nouvelle recrue

It does look like the sasayama sub-specie. About the gender: It's not that good to see on the pics. I would say an immature male, although at the French forum they say (probably) a female.

Damn this forum is quite complicated
I can't edit my first message...

Thank you Joost for your guess, I hope you're wrong because i really want a female
Interesting fact there was about 25 small pyrrhos at the store and only 4-5 seemed to be females. The seller told me it was always like that. Strange.

I'm quite happy cause he/she went to the water and ate worms this morning, he/she was VERY hungry
And now it is totally aquatic so i guess he's happy to be there.

The sex is quite difficult to determine from your photos, although based on the belly pattern (vertical striping pre-white dot development) and lack of prominent paratoid glands I would edge towards it being a sub-adult female. Males also develop a kind of curtain edge of bobbled skin around the flanks of the belly which I don't see here. There is however something distinctly male looking about the rear legs and vent region. Perhaps a close up shot of the cloaca would be more conclusive.

See the attached Sasayama newts, the two males on the left have very prominent glands on the head and rough edging to the belly. The female on the far right has small paratoid glands, which don't even feature in the photo, and a smooth edge to her belly, giving a more rounded look. Males have large cloacae even out of season and the paratoid glands become obvious at a very early age.

The second image of a male swimming shows the bobbled orange edge along the belly flanks more clearly.

Thanks for your informations. Your pictures are great.
So some say it's a sasayamae and some say it's not. Lets see.
If it's a male i won't keep it though, i already have 4 males and only one female

I'll try to post more pictures but i dont want to disturb it too much for now.

Hi William,
I send you an e-mail in this afternoon.
I'm interested in males sassayamae.