Caudata.org: Newts and Salamanders Portal

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Did you know that registered users see fewer ads? Register today!

Daphnia aeration in 2 liter bottles?

stanleyc

Active member
Joined
Apr 9, 2009
Messages
284
Reaction score
29
I've recently started culturing daphnia again. I have 2 cultures in 2-liter soda bottles and feed them active yeast and spirulina powder. I've used the same setup and foods in the past and had good enough production for the most part. But feeding them yeast and spirulina, there's always a chance of fouling the water, which has cost me a couple times in the past.

I was wondering if aeration is worth doing in such small containers. I've tried an air pump/tubing setup, but it produces too strong a current in the 2-liter bottles. Is there a way to make this setup work? Is there something else that would work in such small containers? Or should I not bother with aeration and just be careful with feeding and maintenance?

Thanks
 

oceanblue

New member
Joined
Sep 27, 2007
Messages
654
Reaction score
52
Location
Brecon beacons
I've not found 2L pop bottles very good for daphnia, but even smaller flat rectangular 650ml plastic containers, only filled to 400ml, from the local take-away restaurant are very good at maintaining small back up cultures without aeration, and I've even kept a few daphnia in a petri dish stack.

The containers are a lot easier to pipette out or net a few daphnia than bottles which have to be decanted to get at the contents, or if you scissor off the top they become floppy and hard to handle.

Shallow seems to work very well without aeration, I presume diffusion works well with the wide surface area. You could stick with 2L pop bottles but only put 800ml in them and stack them sideways like wine.
 

Jennewt

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 27, 2005
Messages
12,451
Reaction score
146
Location
USA
I would recommend using larger containers, if possible. The problem of too strong aeration can be solved with an air control kit (little plastic splitters and valves). Put this search into google: "aquarium air tubing control kit".
 

Coastal Groovin

Active member
Joined
Nov 17, 2008
Messages
923
Reaction score
46
Location
USA
Aeration normally kills daphnia. Banging them into each other and the walls of the container. This grinds away their shells. I would try to use 5-10 gallons tanks and feed green water. Culture green water from turtle tanks or grown in large soda bottles filled with rain water and liquid fertilizer set to grow on a sunny windowsill. If you don't want to use green water try crushed up goldfish flakes.
 

stanleyc

Active member
Joined
Apr 9, 2009
Messages
284
Reaction score
29
With the space I have available, I think I'll stick with the bottles for now. I will try to the tubing control kit.

Thanks for the advice both of you.
 

mjmpt

New member
Joined
Sep 27, 2013
Messages
13
Reaction score
0
Location
Lisboa, Portugal
I use 2 l bottles, full up to about 5cm from the top, without aeration. But I use almost exclusivelly greenwater and tank water. When I do have to feed something else, I use only 2-3 drops per bottle, of bakers yeast, liquizell or a similar suspension I prepare.
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • Shane douglas:
    with axolotls would I basically have to keep buying and buying new axolotls to prevent inbred breeding which costs a lot of money??
    +1
    Unlike
  • Thorninmyside:
    Not necessarily but if you’re wanting to continue to grow your breeding capacity then yes. Breeding axolotls isn’t a cheap hobby nor is it a get rich quick scheme. It costs a lot of money and time and deditcation
    +1
    Unlike
  • stanleyc:
    @Thorninmyside, I Lauren chen
    +1
    Unlike
  • Clareclare:
    Would Chinese fire belly newts be more or less inclined towards an aquatic eft set up versus Japanese . I'm raising them and have abandoned the terrarium at about 5 months old and switched to the aquatic setups you describe. I'm wondering if I could do this as soon as they morph?
    +1
    Unlike
    Clareclare: Would Chinese fire belly newts be more or less inclined towards an aquatic eft set up versus... +1
    Top