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felizycontento

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Which subspecies would you say is it?.

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I would say those are gigliolli,qlthough i wouldnt rule out red terrestris,Loire valley-France, very nice they look to!!!
 
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I thought gigliolli as soon as I saw them. But you are really going to need to know where they were collected from to be sure. They could be terrestris also but IMO they are gigliolli
 
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Locality is certainly the only way to tell for sure. The animal on the left has a classic head that indicates gigliolii....somewhat flattened and boxy. The other specimin is a bit baffling in terms of markings. There is always the chance for hybridization with terrestris though.
 
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