What species are my salamanders?

GreerDalrymple · Nov 25, 2012

I bought 3 salamanders yesterday in Sydney, NSW Australia, but I don't know what species they are?
One is black, with a slightly white/grey marbled tail any underside, black eyes.
One seems to be albino or very light in colour, slightly pink with big blue eyes.
& the other is a murky orange with shiny gold spots all over him, he has reddish eyes.

I have already looked into them on caudate, but am unable to tell what they are!

They are all roughly 20cm's from tip to tail, fairly slim & all have reached sexual maturity as their finger tips are discoloured.

Please Help!

Kaysie · Nov 25, 2012

They're axolotls. Axolotls are the only species that are legally allowed in Australia.

frogman · Nov 25, 2012

GreerDalrymple said:
I bought 3 salamanders yesterday in Sydney, NSW Australia, but I don't know what species they are?
One is black, with a slightly white/grey marbled tail any underside, black eyes.
One seems to be albino or very light in colour, slightly pink with big blue eyes.
& the other is a murky orange with shiny gold spots all over him, he has reddish eyes.

I have already looked into them on caudate, but am unable to tell what they are!

They are all roughly 20cm's from tip to tail, fairly slim & all have reached sexual maturity as their finger tips are discoloured.

Please Help!

The first one described is melanoid minus the green eyes because is gfp.
The second is leucistic not albino, it lacks pigment but will sometimes get it in the face and back,
And the third is golden albino.

I have the same three colors.
In order here are pics.

And the leucistic.

And the golden albino.

GreerDalrymple · Nov 25, 2012

I have axolotl'e aswell, these are definitely salamanders of some description.

Thankyou Frogman for clarifying that for me,

Bellabelloo · Nov 25, 2012

Could you add some pictures, I also suspect they are axolotl, but maybe morphed ones? Google and see what you think.

NeekaLovesYou · Nov 25, 2012

Either that or axolotls in poor condition, might have some major gill shrinkage? Just a thought :happy:

GreerDalrymple · Nov 25, 2012

I can't upload any from my phone, but I will tomorrow on my computer.

They all seem healthy & are eating bugs, worms etc without any abvious signs of stress.
Again, I am fairly positive they are not axolotl's, possibly morphed though.
They are choosing land over the available water source aswell.

Thanks for all the reply's

frogman · Nov 25, 2012

Hmmm,

Ya I was wondering why you didn't mention big fluffy gills.

Post pics

GreerDalrymple · Nov 25, 2012

They look much alike to morphed axolotls to me, but I'm still unsure.
Here are their pics

Thanks for all the suggestions!:happy:

Bellabelloo · Nov 25, 2012

They are morphed axolotl.

NeekaLovesYou · Nov 25, 2012

I'd have to agree with you - how unusual! Axolotls don't morph very often, I find it extraodinary if not a little worrying to find 3 at once. I wonder how the store acquired them..

GreerDalrymple · Nov 25, 2012

Thanks for clarifying that

Me too, chemically is the only way I've heard of it, I'm contacting the shop to make further inquires of where they came from.

If anyone has tips on their needs, please let me know.
I'll be looking up new are sheets now but any help would be great.

Jennewt · Nov 25, 2012

Not that unusual. They are produced in Australia. Here are some previous threads on the same topic:
http://www.caudata.org/forum/f46-be...bystoma-mexicanum/76046-morphed-axolotls.html
http://www.caudata.org/forum/f46-be...-morphed-axololt-being-sold-reptile-shop.html
http://www.caudata.org/forum/f46-be...-discussion/74747-australian-salamanders.html
http://www.caudata.org/forum/f46-be...eral-discussion/68521-6-morphed-axolotls.html
http://www.caudata.org/forum/f46-be...-so-my-petstore-selling-morphed-axolotls.html

GreerDalrymple · Nov 25, 2012

Thanks a lot, Jennewt, very interesting stuff
Very upsetting that they have most likely been hurt in the morph process, I am very against that sort of thing & never would have bought them if I knew that.

I should have looked into it more before I bought them, but now that I know what they are, I hope they can lead a happy remaining life!

Neil C · Nov 26, 2012

Keep them cool and damp and they should be fine. You must have paid a fair bit for them as morphed axolotl here are not cheap.

Regards Neil

GreerDalrymple · Oct 14, 2013

They were $80 each Neil so yes, not so cheap!

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