Relations

To which newt are Neurergus related?
From appearance they look a lot like Euproctus.
Are they somehow related or is the similarity just from the outside.

You are correct. They are most closely related to Euproctus (and some Triturus). Here's a link that shows relatedness among Salamandridae:
http://tolweb.org/tree?group=Salamandridae&contgroup=Caudata

since this was a table created before Triturus split into lissotriton, mesotriton, triturus and now ommatriton. i wonder which genera are in triturus 1 and 2?

My guess would be part 1 is the crested, large bodied ones (Triturus), and part 2 would be all the rest (the non-crested ones).

Every time I saw a Neurergus I was wondering why they reminded mee so much of the pyrenean brook salamander.
Now I know, thanks!

Well, you should look a little bit better...
I don't agree. They really look different from a Euproctus asper. They have very different skin (not as rough), not a muscular tail (they don't use their tails in clasping the females), they don't have horned toes, and are much more elegant in their morphology. The thing they do have in common is that fact that they breed in streams.

they remind me more of triturus in shape, apart from the obvious differences.

Quote"Well, you should look a little bit better...
I don't agree. They really look different from a Euproctus asper. They have very different skin (not as rough), not a muscular tail (they don't use their tails in clasping the females), they don't have horned toes, and are much more elegant in their morphology. The thing they do have in common is that fact that they breed in streams."

Thanks Serge.
I haven't seen either of these species in real life. I've only compared them from foto's.
So I don't have the possibility to look at such details.
Actually I only compared the overall body shape.
I just wanted to find out a bit more about this species because I could hardly find anything about it. Just as an interest.
Thanks

(Message edited by cyanurus on October 31, 2005)

(Message edited by cyanurus on October 31, 2005)

Hi Micha,

well, pictures are always difficult when you want to compare things like morphology. You have to see the animals for real. So...have a nice trip to the Pyrenees for a start!

Sergé