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Hi everyone,
I am new to keeping P. Cinereus (I got 3 little leadbacks about a week ago), and having read through the species care sheet here and through many of the older posts, I still have several questions about the little guys.
1. Setup & Cleaning: I have the leadbacks set up in a plastic terrarium with a tight-fitting lid roughly approximate to the size of a 5-gallon aquarium. I have tried to mimic their natural environment in the setup - see pic attached.
The substrate is mixed top soil, coconut fiber, and earth from the forest; leaf litter; partially decayed log pieces from the forest; pine cone; clay flower pot that is mostly buried in the substrate; clay flower pot basin to use as feeding dish for chopped earthworms. They seem to be enjoying the variety of cover and also appear to have been digging out burrows under the logs. My concerns are:
- The care sheet seems to suggest that the setup should be cleaned about once a month. But how extensively does it need to be cleaned? i.e. Is it sufficient to remove just the top centimeter or so of the topsoil, or should it all be replaced? (I am worried about disturbing their terrain & burrows too much, but want their environment to be appropriately clean). Is there anything in particular I can do to help their environment be as self-sustaining as possible?
2. Feeding/Behaviour: So far, my leadbacks are incredibly shy and elusive. I have had some luck watching them at night with a dim flashlight (the first flashlight I tried was too bright and scared them), but they burrow away deep under the logs and leaf litter in the terrarium during the day. This has made feeding difficult. So far I been leaving chopped earthworms out in the evening, but they don't seem to be getting eaten. I have also tried to offer them earthworm pieces with tweezers, but they don't seem interested or become frightened. Should I be concerned? I know that there are probably lots of tiny insects and mites in the leaf litter at the moment which they may be eating, but I am worried about what to do when this natural food supply runs out. Are they likely to become more "visible" over time? (Is this normal shyness, or adjustment jitters?)
3. Sexing: I understand that males are distinguished by an enlarged nasolabial groove & mental gland. Does anyone have a picture of what this looks like in practice? I have seen the pic of the mental gland on the Caudata Culture site, but are their pics out there of the difference in the nasolabial groove?
Ok, sorry about the length of this post. I would appreciate any insight or suggestions that anyone out there might have! Thank you!
I am new to keeping P. Cinereus (I got 3 little leadbacks about a week ago), and having read through the species care sheet here and through many of the older posts, I still have several questions about the little guys.
1. Setup & Cleaning: I have the leadbacks set up in a plastic terrarium with a tight-fitting lid roughly approximate to the size of a 5-gallon aquarium. I have tried to mimic their natural environment in the setup - see pic attached.
- The care sheet seems to suggest that the setup should be cleaned about once a month. But how extensively does it need to be cleaned? i.e. Is it sufficient to remove just the top centimeter or so of the topsoil, or should it all be replaced? (I am worried about disturbing their terrain & burrows too much, but want their environment to be appropriately clean). Is there anything in particular I can do to help their environment be as self-sustaining as possible?
2. Feeding/Behaviour: So far, my leadbacks are incredibly shy and elusive. I have had some luck watching them at night with a dim flashlight (the first flashlight I tried was too bright and scared them), but they burrow away deep under the logs and leaf litter in the terrarium during the day. This has made feeding difficult. So far I been leaving chopped earthworms out in the evening, but they don't seem to be getting eaten. I have also tried to offer them earthworm pieces with tweezers, but they don't seem interested or become frightened. Should I be concerned? I know that there are probably lots of tiny insects and mites in the leaf litter at the moment which they may be eating, but I am worried about what to do when this natural food supply runs out. Are they likely to become more "visible" over time? (Is this normal shyness, or adjustment jitters?)
3. Sexing: I understand that males are distinguished by an enlarged nasolabial groove & mental gland. Does anyone have a picture of what this looks like in practice? I have seen the pic of the mental gland on the Caudata Culture site, but are their pics out there of the difference in the nasolabial groove?
Ok, sorry about the length of this post. I would appreciate any insight or suggestions that anyone out there might have! Thank you!