The longest running Amphibian Community on the Internet.

Tags Register FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Caudata.org Store

Notices

Newt and Salamander Help Got a problem? Ill newt? Basic questions? Ask about them here.

Reply

 

Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 31st March 2011   #1
tcaa
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Nationality:
Posts: 6
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: tcaa is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

im lookin after a marble salamander for a friend while shes gone away for 3 months.
the first month went great, it ate well on crickets, mealworms and wax worms i gave it 2 bugs every other day like she told me. but for the last month it hasnt touched a thing, it was quite chubby when i first got him but now its lookin alittle wrinkly?
ive tried temptin it by rubbin the bugs around the mouth but that didnt work
ive done everything shes told me to do. what have i done wrong? or is this normal?
please help me



tcaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st March 2011   #2
Eric
(Shizeric)
2010 Research Grant Donor
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 1,835
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: Shizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.org
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

What kind of setup do you have? Have you tried earthworms or bloodworms?



Shizeric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st March 2011   #3
tcaa
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Nationality:
Posts: 6
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: tcaa is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

its a plastic tank with a vented lid, and the substrate i think she called it peat moss? theres abit of orchid bark mixed in with it and also some sphagnum moss scatter about. and theres a shallow water dish and acouple of peices of cork bark for hinds.

not tried any of those worms, would he be able to manage an earthworm? or have i gotta chop it? and do i try live bloodworm or can i use frozen?



tcaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st March 2011   #4
Kaysie
(Kaysie)
Site Contributor
 
Kaysie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 14,467
Gallery Images: 45
Comments: 62
Rep: Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

Peat and sphagnum mosses can be pretty acidic, and aren't the most appropriate substrate for salamanders.

You should switch it over to a dirt-based set up.

How big is the salamander? Adults can easily handle a worm that is as long as they are. Juveniles will need smaller chunks.



Kaysie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st March 2011   #5
tcaa
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Nationality:
Posts: 6
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: tcaa is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

hes about 4 1/2 inches?
i could go buy some different substrate tomorra. would i ask for a dirt based one, or is it called something else, is there anything else u reccomend i get?



tcaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st March 2011   #6
Eric
(Shizeric)
2010 Research Grant Donor
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 1,835
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: Shizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.orgShizeric is a mainstay of Caudata.org
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

A lot of people use top soil mixed with coco fiber. A salamander that size should have no problem eating an earthworm.




Last edited by Kaysie; 31st March 2011 at 16:29. Reason: NOT potting soil!
Shizeric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st March 2011   #7
tcaa
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Nationality:
Posts: 6
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: tcaa is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

thanks for the substrate info everyone:)

but any idea why he wont eat? is this common? ill defo try the earthworms and let u know how it goes. i really dont want him to starve to death, especially as hes not mine, ill feel awful if anythin happens while im lookin after it



tcaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st April 2011   #8
Jennewt
Administrator
 
Jennewt's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 57
Posts: 12,405
Gallery Images: 97
Comments: 46
Rep: Jennewt goes to 11Jennewt goes to 11Jennewt goes to 11Jennewt goes to 11Jennewt goes to 11Jennewt goes to 11Jennewt goes to 11Jennewt goes to 11Jennewt goes to 11Jennewt goes to 11Jennewt goes to 11
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

Caudata Culture Articles - Vivarium Substrates
If you go to buy a product, there are various "forest floor" substrates that are good. Coconut fiber is OK too.
Also, could the substrate be too wet or too dry? Looking "wrinkly" really doesn't sound good!



__________________
Useful Links: Caresheets | Newt & Salamander FAQs | Axolotl FAQs | Forum Rules.
Jennewt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st April 2011   #9
tcaa
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Nationality:
Posts: 6
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: tcaa is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

i put earthworms in there today, but he wasnt interested ill check later tonight.

another thing id like to pick ur brains about is i had him out today, just to check over him, see if there were any lumps or cuts. and i notice on the white/grey areas that there were brownish/green tint blotches, i thought at first it was just dirt but it never came off when i rubbed my finger over them, its not raised and it doesnt feel any different. any ideas?



tcaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st April 2011   #10
Julia
(bellabelloo)
Moderator
 
bellabelloo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 53
Posts: 5,216
Gallery Images: 19
Comments: 13
Rep: bellabelloo goes to 11bellabelloo goes to 11bellabelloo goes to 11bellabelloo goes to 11bellabelloo goes to 11bellabelloo goes to 11bellabelloo goes to 11bellabelloo goes to 11bellabelloo goes to 11bellabelloo goes to 11bellabelloo goes to 11
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

Would you be able to post a picture of him ?



bellabelloo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st April 2011   #11
tcaa
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Nationality:
Posts: 6
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: tcaa is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

here he is...he looks so rough Click the image to open in full size.



tcaa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st April 2011   #12
Kaysie
(Kaysie)
Site Contributor
 
Kaysie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Posts: 14,467
Gallery Images: 45
Comments: 62
Rep: Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11Kaysie goes to 11
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

Oh dear.

The blotches look like retained shed skin. To repeat what Jen said, it's either too wet or too dry. I'd lean toward dry, since it's not shedding properly.

FYI: It's a female. And it doesn't look skinny, but there's definitely something wrong.



Kaysie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd April 2011   #13
Jan
Site Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Nationality:
Location: [ Members Only ]
Age: 66
Posts: 1,626
Gallery Images: 0
Comments: 0
Rep: Jan is considered an Authority at Caudata.orgJan is considered an Authority at Caudata.orgJan is considered an Authority at Caudata.orgJan is considered an Authority at Caudata.orgJan is considered an Authority at Caudata.orgJan is considered an Authority at Caudata.orgJan is considered an Authority at Caudata.orgJan is considered an Authority at Caudata.orgJan is considered an Authority at Caudata.orgJan is considered an Authority at Caudata.org
Default Re: Could do with some advice on a salamander thats not eating:(

This salamander is ill - probably why it hasn't eaten in a month. The skin - could be an infection or a manifestation of an underlying disease. If it were my animal, I would immediately get it out of the substrate that it has been in, place it in a hospital set-up using moistened paper towels in a new tank (in case it is infection) and place it in the coolest part of my home.

As you are 'baby-sitting' for this animal and may lack experience, you may find this article beneficial as it describes general care for this type of animal and a hospital set-up:
Caudata Culture Articles - Tiger Salamander 101

I recommend a visit to a vet that has experience with amphibians if at all possible.



Jan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hatchlings not eating advice femme Axolotl Eggs, Larvae & Breeding 7 29th August 2010 00:08
Tiger Salamander--doing research and seeking advice dewbert Newt and Salamander Help 6 9th April 2009 10:58
Rescue Advice! Tiger Salamander? Korista Newt and Salamander Help 1 11th August 2008 02:41
Found a salamander. Need advice. samshepherd Newt and Salamander Help 1 6th January 2006 10:09
Need help and advice - Tiger Salamander not eating, looking thin salamander_fan Newt and Salamander Help 1 11th December 2002 19:15


All times are GMT. The time now is 16:42.