What species

Doomus · Aug 29, 2015

So I picked these little guys up and was told that the were leuthisic T.carnifex and was wondering do you agree and if not any ideas what they are

A belly shot

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Chinadog · Aug 30, 2015

They look like Ommatotriton or Lissotriton to me. Certainly not Triturus.

Stupot1610 · Aug 30, 2015

Chinadog said:
They look like Ommatotriton or Lissotriton to me. Certainly not Triturus.

Yep, certainly not Triturus. My guess is Ommatotriton, going by the plain orange belly.

Doomus · Aug 30, 2015

Yea looked at some pics and I'm pretty sure there Ommatotriton ophryticus thanks for the help

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sde · Aug 30, 2015

My first thought was that its a juvenile Ommatriton ophryticus, but i could be wrong.

otolith · Aug 30, 2015

Wow, definitely not Triturus. The white blotches on the head definitely look like Ommatotriton which is quite a surprise as they are incredibly rare (dare I say Non-existent?)in the hobby in North America. Lissotriton is another (more likely?) possibility but I've never seen juveniles have that coloration on the head. Whatever they are I am incredibly jealous.

Chinadog · Aug 30, 2015

otolith said:
Wow, definitely not Triturus. The white blotches on the head definitely look like Ommatotriton which is quite a surprise as they are incredibly rare (dare I say Non-existent?)in the hobby in North America. Lissotriton is another (more likely?) possibility but I've never seen juveniles have that coloration on the head. Whatever they are I am incredibly jealous.

There is a recent-ish thread somewhere on here with a link to a Turkish 'breeder' selling Ommatotriton as Triturus, I will see if I can find it.

Doomus · Aug 30, 2015

I know that these guys came from Amsterdam but I'm not sure where they were originally bred

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Neotenic_Jaymes · Aug 30, 2015

Ommatotriton. You can tell from the 2 lighter color areas on the head.

Chinadog · Aug 31, 2015

It took some finding so I'll post the link, its probably just coincidental, though.

http://www.caudata.org/forum/f1-gen...0606-triturus-karelinii-newbie-questions.html

otolith · Aug 31, 2015

Doomus, did the "breeder" you got these from have more available?

Doomus · Aug 31, 2015

I first saw them at a expo last week and a local shop ended up buying a bunch of them and that's how I acquired them and yeah they have a bunch more...Dutch dragon imports was from who they came from but where they got them I'm not sure

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