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Jesper: Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
I would only add that describing a new species is not an experiment.
William: No one has ever been able to secure specimens of chenggongensis yet for genetic testing (hmmm...)
Also, you seem to be confusing debates, as their are a few distinct ones and they are muddying each other.
1.) Does Angus possess chenggongensis as described by Kou and Xing?
This is easily debatable without DNA testing. All one needs to do is compare animals with the type description.
2.) Does Angus possess a new species (if not chenggongensis)?
Who knows? Sure, it's possible. I certainly would not be surprised to see new Cynops come out of China. However, Angus' animal doesn't look like anything other than cyanurus to me. If anyone else is seeing something that I'm not, please point it out to me. Otherwise, I see it as no different than posting a photo of what appears to be orientalis and calling it a new species.
3.) Is chenggongensis a valid species?
I agree, this is not debatable without DNA testing.
I would only add that describing a new species is not an experiment.
William: No one has ever been able to secure specimens of chenggongensis yet for genetic testing (hmmm...)
Also, you seem to be confusing debates, as their are a few distinct ones and they are muddying each other.
1.) Does Angus possess chenggongensis as described by Kou and Xing?
This is easily debatable without DNA testing. All one needs to do is compare animals with the type description.
2.) Does Angus possess a new species (if not chenggongensis)?
Who knows? Sure, it's possible. I certainly would not be surprised to see new Cynops come out of China. However, Angus' animal doesn't look like anything other than cyanurus to me. If anyone else is seeing something that I'm not, please point it out to me. Otherwise, I see it as no different than posting a photo of what appears to be orientalis and calling it a new species.
3.) Is chenggongensis a valid species?
I agree, this is not debatable without DNA testing.