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Identification by belly pattern

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Can the belly patterns and colours of the similar Triturus species, especially the females, be used as an indentifier as to which is which?
 

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Hello !

That seems difficult to me.
I remember the variuous patterns among individuals of a single population.
In the 80's, a guide showed illustrations of typical patterns of cristatus, carnifex, dobrogicus and karelini, but now with newly described ivanbureschi and macedonicus, I'm not sure it remains relevant.
 

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If belly patterns can't be used, is there a definitive to differentiate between female crostatas and karelinii?
 
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