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Old 14th June 2004   #1
sharon
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I suppose it isn't so much what she is doing as it is what she isn't doing.

She and her co-dwellers (3 other whites' and tiger, no lectures please!) were recently moved to a gorgeous 40 gl terrarium.

The only real changes are the amount of land space, and the beach platform. Instead of a textured lid from a storage box its plexi glass.

But she doesn't seem happy. The others have all moved in with out any problems.

But she seems, just unhappy. Instead of hanging out on the beach with the salamander she crams herself into a corner behind the filter. Yesterday I even saw in the filter net (submerged filter inside of a breeders net). Also yesterday she scared the bejeezus out of me when she leapt from the filter to a plant and was scrambling around on top of the plant (fairly stiff leaved plant) after she climbed off of that she settled on a log and seemed to be scratching at it with one hind leg. I've never seen her do any of this before. The plant is the exact same plant from the old terrarium.

Last night before lights out, she was sitting on the beach with the water up to her chin (not her usual resting position on the beach) and her eyes said "I'm asleep" but they looked different somehow. So I reached in and gave her a poke, nothing, I dumped in some crickets, nothing. I picked her up and turned upside down to have a look at her belly, and she moved strongly to right herself. But when I put her back in the tank, she settled to the ground with the same look on her face. (don't laugh at me!! LOL) When I woke up sometime in the night for a drink of water, I checked on her. The whole crew was out. I couldn't tell the difference between her and the big male (no glasses or contacts in) but both frogs were in the 'alert' position in different places of the tank, than when I'd left them.

I've had her for 4 or 5 years now. Her tympanic ridges say she is eating right (not reduced or over sized) she doesn't have red leg, nice clear white skin.

I'd take her to a vet but an amphib specialist is hard to find in AZ. All the vets who claim to be amphib specialists just want to shoot them up with baytril to be on the safe side. (or so they say).

Anyone have any tips or hints as to what else I should be looking at/for?

Sharon



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Old 14th June 2004   #2
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WHat sort of temps is it at?

I know you asked for no lectures, but how can you keep something which its maximum temperature lower than the frogs minimum recommended temperature?

Maybe adding more plants or something would make it feel more secure, as many herps will become stressed by the change.

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Old 15th June 2004   #3
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<blockquote><hr size=0><!-quote-!><font size=1>AJfr0ggy (Ajfr0ggy) wrote on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 22:42 :</font>

&quot;I know you asked for no lectures, but how can you keep something which its maximum temperature lower than the frogs minimum recommended temperature? &quot;<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

LOL! Well its my favorite story. Its my "not dead salamander." I bought 4 axolotls that magically morphed. After a while I only saw 3, I searched the tank and figured she had died. I gave the others away. Well, I didn't let the tank sit empty for long, but I did need to do some rearranging, and I emptied the tank, handful by handful of dirt. I never saw the salamander.

I added my new Whites' tree frog and let things go. One day, lol, I saw my "not dead salamander" sitting on the beach with the frog. I kinda freaked out but at the time I had no where to move her too. But after a while I realized she seemed happy with the frog and her higher temps. Go figure. She is fat and sassy as all heck, and its fun to watch her and the frog play tug of war with an earthworm. LOL! I've only seen that once.

Temps are about 82 - 85. At night they probably drop to the 60s' or low 70s'.

More plants are an option. She was doing some of her normal things today, including sitting on the beach in her normal way.

Come to think of it, last night their day heat bulb burnt out, the tank has been in the 70s all day.... see weird frog!

Sharon



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Old 15th June 2004   #4
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With the White's you are seeing a stress response to I would suspect the move from familar conditions to the newer enclosure as the cause. I would suggest just monitoring her as it could lead to immunosuppression and a potential for infection.

White's are a species of frog that has a wide thermal tolerance (75-85 as the opitmal range but tolerating drops in the mid 60s and as high as the low 90s) but I would suggest keeping them in the upper 70s as opposed to the low 80s.

Ed



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Old 29th July 2004   #5
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Sharon, I hear ya about the lectures....
My grey tree frogs do the same thing. The one in particular loves to hang out in the water filter. Click the image to open in full size. This one is always active. My other one is larger and just hangs around. They both eat well, show no signs of sickness and even the larger one is somewhat active at night. The one in the filter is the active one and the one on my profile picture is the lazy one. This probably sounds stupid but it's almost as if they have their own personalities. Mine sound like yours Sharon.



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Old 5th August 2004   #6
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Meghan your frog is so cute!!!
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