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Eastern newts with Japanese fire belly newts?

Newtmander

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Hello, everyone




I am new to this site and was hoping that I could get some help with something? I am looking to buy some newts and was thinking to get jfbn with eastern newts in a 20 gallon tank, would this be ok? I have been reading a lot, some people say it is ok and they have had no problems at all, while others say don't do it at all? I would like to put them together very much but if it harms the newts I don't wanna do that. So I figured I'd ask before I bought them.
 

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Don't. Not only could cross-species contamination happen, the eastern newt has a strange mating ritual, where it grabs it's mate with its hind legs and could suffocate the other newt that is not adapted for that mating ritual
 

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Thank you for letting me know, I'm leaning more toward the fire belly newts to get, is there anything I can house them with or just with other fire belly newts? I'd really like a variety of newts or frogs in my tank.
 

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You're going to want to stick to a single specie, I would also look into finding some captive bred newts if you haven't already
 

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Aaron is right, make sure you get a captive bred newt instead of getting a sick wild caught one which will support more getting caught
 

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Thank you guys, I'm glad I didn't buy them first and then have something bad happen.
 

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there are a bunch of CB newts for sale, if you like fire-bellies, some C.cyranus are available for sale, I'll link the care-sheet for them :happy:
 

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I would not recommend the Eastern Newts. I have tried keeping them multiple times, but this species does not do well in captivity. Try out the captive breed fire belly newts. They are a very cool species and do well in captivity. It is also easier to find a captive bred Japanese Fire Belly Newt than a captive bred Eastern Newt. If you like the Easter Newts, the Peninsular Newt is a great alternative. It is a subspecies of Eastern Newt that I have found to do much better in captivity. I currently have three I have had for some years now. Eastern Newts tend to randomly die within 1-6 months in captivity. I would not house another animal with the newts no matter if they are fish, frogs, or anything else. It can cause stress in the newts, and the newts or other animals will more than likely try to eat each other. I have six species of salamander myself, four of them are newts, and I keep them all separate. It makes it easier to tailor to their species species needs too. I love variety myself, so I like to have many different species of animals but trust me when I say it is not worth the risk. I had a Red Eye Tree Frog and an Amazon Milk frog together temporarily for a few weeks in the past, but they both ended up dying shortly later. All amphibians have some sort of toxin. For many species it is not enough the affect anything from being around it, but in an enclosure they live exposed to it constantly and it builds up and can be deadly. Caudata has a great article on it here. http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/Mixing_disasters.shtml
 
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