Salamandra ID *pics*

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Hello all!

I was hoping for some help identifying these Salamandra sp. I am hoping to ID them to subspecies. They were born from a WC mother (location unknown) so they should represent a genetically pure subspecies.

Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated!

Cheers,
Ryan

P.S. First photo is mom, and second is of two babies.
 

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I would say they are salamandra salamandra salamandra, probably from the Ukraine.

Ben
 
I agree they look like S.s.salamandra, and given that it appears that the Ukraine is the only european country legally exporting (or so people say...i´d personally like proof) these animals, it would make sense.
 
Thanks all!

I checked the "guide" prior to posting and came up with S. s. salamandra as the likely suspect. But since the guide is entirely visual with no written descriptions regarding differences to look for, I wanted to put the question to you all.

Thanks again! Much appreciated.
 
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