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Two Hynobiidaes die,can't find reason,with anatomy pic

zhanggeer

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It's a terrible day today!
Two hynobiidaes died in the same day.
They were all raised by me from eggs.
I cann't understand why they died so suddenly.
The room temp is 15℃.
I didn't stop feedding,was that reason?Because i found half-diggested earth worm spitting from one's mouth.
There were much excrement in both large intestine(normal?) .
And i found many black dots on both large intestine wall(normal?)
Here are pictures,mybe you can find slues for me.
Thanks so much.
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Re: Two Hynobiidaes die,cann't find reason,with anatomy pic

Hi zhanggeer,
Did you feed the same worms to any other animals besides these two? I am not sure about the liver spots, hopefully someone more knowledgeable can comment on this.
 

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Re: Two Hynobiidaes die,cann't find reason,with anatomy pic

How long after they died were these pictures taken? They look bloated.
 

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Re: Two Hynobiidaes die,cann't find reason,with anatomy pic

Hi zhanggeer,
Did you feed the same worms to any other animals besides these two? I am not sure about the liver spots, hopefully someone more knowledgeable can comment on this.

others are normal by now
 

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no sign of worm or any infection caused be worms or one cell organisms or viruses, also skin without any sign of infection with fungus or bacteria, liver seems normal, no yellow/brown colour or spots seen with bare eye, but maybe under binocular!?
possibly the black spots on the wall of intestines are some kind of worm infestation.
I send pics to my friend who is a vet, he can see possibly something strange.

check water quality and food quality.
Maybe your worms came from a polluted source and the newts got poisoned!?
 

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my vet says that the black spots at the wall of intestine are pigments (the big dark red mass inside intestine is just digested food).
he can not see any sign of infection or poisoning at liver or intestine, he says everything looks very normal and that you did a good job opening the belly for photo ;)

so the reason of death remains myterious
 
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