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Old 6th July 2008   #1
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Default Help me determine the gender of these toads! (Pictures)

Ok, so I finally have pictures of all ten! I’ll name and number them so that you can post and tell me who you think is which gender! A few males are confirmed because they’ve tried amplexus, but if you have any comments about them, please do speak up!

Incidentally, there are two twenty gallon tanks with five frogs each:

Tank 1:

Ganon, Austin, Daffodil, Miata, Amy

Tank 2:

Mojo, Smee, Tarzan, Pirate, Leela

If you have a suggestion for rearrangement, please let me know as well.

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1: Ganon

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2: Daffodil

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3: Austin

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4: Miata

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5: Amy

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6: Mojo

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7: Smee

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8: Pirate

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9: Tarzan

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10: Leela

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Austin, Ganon, Mojo, and Tarzan are confirmed males--or females who have tried amplexus. Either Smee or Pirate is a male--I had a hard time telling them apart for a while, but one of them tried amplexus with someone else.

Please let me know who you think is what gender! I've named them based on my best guesses!

Thanks!



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Old 9th July 2008   #2
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Default Re: Help me determine the gender of these toads! (Pictures)

Seems to me that Smee, Pirate, and Tarzan are females, everyone else is a Male. I could be wrong though, I use the "middle-toe length" method where Males usually have a "longer" middle toe on their back feet whereas the female's webbing goes up the middle toe higher making it look like they have smaller toes.



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Really? I had heard that it was the opposite way--females had the "longer toe" and males have the higher webbing. On another forum, someone posted a picture citing the male as the toad with more webbing.



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Default Re: Help me determine the gender of these toads! (Pictures)

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Really? I had heard that it was the opposite way--females had the "longer toe" and males have the higher webbing. On another forum, someone posted a picture citing the male as the toad with more webbing.
That was my understanding also.
I am terrible at sexing from photos, but I'll give this a go(personaly I find overall shape, skin texture and amplex/calling the best indicators of sex);
Males: 8 and 9 definatley, 3 possibly.
Females: 2, 4, 5 and 6. 1, 7 and 10 look likely female to me.

The colouration on Mojo is brilliant, dont think I've ever seen one so brightly coloured all over. I'm fairly sure its a younger female, difficult to tell from the photo but she looks to have quite a plump belly(comparitively speaking, looks skinnier than the others), seems to have very smooth skin and thats a really long back toe. Or it could be a younger male with clown feet.

Great pics, do you have any of their tanks? I keep almost accidently buying some whenever I pass the petshop, wish I had the space



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I also agree that mojo is beautiful.



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Default Re: Help me determine the gender of these toads! (Pictures)

Lasher and Frognewt are correct. I remember it as "girls want diamond rings from their men so they stick their 'ring' finger out".



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