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Tiger Salamander & Axolotl (Ambystoma tigrinum, A. mavortium spp, etc.) The Tiger Salamanders and the Axolotl are so popular amongst hobbyists that they have been given their own topic. If you're particularly interested in the Axolotl, there is a large section of the forum devoted mainly to beginner Axolotl enthusiasts (not this topic).

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Old 3rd March 2008   #1
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Default Tiger salamanders are illegal in Pennsylvania, USA.

After hearing different stories I emailed the herpetologist from Pa. fish and boat.

Chris Urban told me, "It is not legal to purchase and sell tiger salamanders in Pa. Even though they are currently considered extirpated, they are still a native species in Pa. They are known south of the Pa border in Delaware, and could potentially be re-discovered in Pa."

I guess according to the Pa. law you could still posses 2 as long as you have a Pa. fishing license and they were legally collected or sold in another state.



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Thats good to know, thanks for sharing.



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I hope that axolotls aren't considered Tiger salamanders in PA



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I hope that axolotls aren't considered Tiger salamanders in PA
It doesn't apply to axolotls. I'm not sure about subspecies of tigers or animals that used to be subspecies and are now species. I was interested in possibly getting some c.b. tiger salamanders but I guess it isn't meant to be.



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Michael - thanks for posting this information re PA law ... per our recent conversation. Laws here in Indiana are similar. If one holds a valid fishing or hunting license, up to 4 tigers or other non-endangered native species of amphibians/reptiles may be collected. However, it is illegal to sell or purchase any native species.



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And as everybody will now Pa is the international abbreviation for Panama.


(There are people outside the US please think of that when you post something)



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Ephrata, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. I guess all along people looked at my post and thought I was a U.S. citizen living in Ephrata, Panama.



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Ephrata, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. I guess all along people looked at my post and thought I was a U.S. citizen living in Ephrata, Panama.
I was confused when I saw Tigers were once native to Panama and that Panama bordered Delaware in the original post. :)



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I know it couldn't be Panama. I'm not that stupid.
Just try to remember this is an international forum.

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Does this only apply to tigrinum? Or are A. mavortium spp also affected?



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Does this only apply to tigrinum? Or are A. mavortium spp also affected?
I think it is only tigrinum and subspecies of tigrinum but you could ask Chris Urban at Pa. fish and boat for clarification. I think marvotium used to be a subspecies of tigrinum and fish and boat doesn't distinguish to subspecies level. The last time I checked mavortium is at species level and should be o.k. Does that make sense to you?



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It does. I recall reading some of the literature when the taxonomic split happened. I'll email Chris Urban and see what he has to say.



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It does. I recall reading some of the literature when the taxonomic split happened. I'll email Chris Urban and see what he has to say.
Might you please post his response here? Appreciated.



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Default Re: Tiger salamanders are illegal in Pennsylvania, USA.

This thread is old but no longer accurate. Tiger salamanders are no longer on the Pa. Fish and Boat native amphibian list. According to enforcement agent Captain T. Burrell they are legal to keep and sell. The regulations have not changed. The Pa. native amphibian list and interpretations of the regulations have changed.

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as I see it from France,

1st is a blotched, A.mavortium melanostictum
2nd is a Grey, A.mavortium diaboli

where are they from ?

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From what I've seen [not locally], some eastern populations resemble classic "blotched". "Gray" variants are common in melanostictum.



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They are from western Wisconsin.



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Oops. Western Minnesota.



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