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Warty Newts (Paramesotriton & Laotriton) & Paddletail Newts (Pachytriton Often sold incorrectly as Japanese fire-bellied newts, these territorial newts are distinct from other genera and very interesting in their own right.

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Old 12th March 2010   #1
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Hi folks. I´ve been very busy with breedings and have my first paramesotriton embryos. Soon they will get out from the eggs (20 to 30days). Like the number of larvae is much smaller than regular explosive breeders (Triturus, Cynops, Mesotritons) I didnt wanted to feed them in BBS because either one way or another some of them ingest eggs from BBS witch causes death. Like losing Paramesotriton larvae its almost like a sin (from my point of view) I wanted to lose few or none so witch type of food can they ingest safely? I have some ponds outdoors that have cyclops, daphnias and tubifex but the water quality seem to be a mess for so delicate larvae. So i seem me with just few options. BBS eggs will eventually kill a apreciable amount of larvae plus the fact that let them outdoors with poor water conditions will even sound worst even that there are many types of food, there will be some hydras witch doesn´t seem very positive...
So witch ideas do you guys have on how to raise paramesotriton larvae till the point of they start eat frozen bloodworms?

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Old 12th March 2010   #2
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What species of Paramesotriton larvae do you have? I've raised P. hongkongensis and fed them BBS and it was fine. Its all about how well you separated the shells from the hacthed shrimp. You only have a couple of options here. I'd go with BBS, or daphnia. They'll grow faster at room temp and will eat more frequently. This way they would be able to take on frozen bloodworms faster.



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Im sorry but wat is BBS? I fed mine paramesotriton larvae artemia's. When they are older tubifex., dapnia.



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Hi,

I had a look on an german site and the breeders feed them BBS, daphnia, white worms, tubifex, bloodworms and gammarus pulex. Hope that helps.

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Well thanks on the replys! Yes callina I start to see that every body starts them in BBS
But i really dont know welll how to separate them from the inevitable presence of the eggs... In best chances I take about 1/3 eggs and the other 2/3 of BBS so lots of eggs. Fortunately I have considerably hundreds larvae so no worries on this. Paramesotriton its different. Only 28 eggs (so far) And female its starting to look more skinny so i guess it will stop soon.
Can some body throw me some links? I have read much in the past but seems that using some of the methods will always contaminate with the eggs
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Dear Monique, BBS stands for baby brine shrimp, Artemia salina nauplii.



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But i really dont know welll how to separate them from the inevitable presence of the eggs...
Very easy with this:
Salamanderseiten

(sorry, in German, but you see the photos)
Change water each day after feeding Artemia!

An other good food for small larvae are Panagrellus redivivus

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Yes I do change the water 2 times or more per day. (Triturus) Paramesos are yet in their eggs. One thing that worries me much, is the fact that some of the parameso eggs are almost hatching (less than 15 days) wile many are in neurula and even a bigger amount is with the aspect of just laid.... These great differences in age might be lethal because i will not be hatching 100 000 artemia naupili for 3 larvae... each time... if they ate them.... but they will not even eat 50 naupili each... Rivers of money.... Its intolerable...
Paul, what's that hatchery name? you can regulate the amount of eggs you hatch? and also witch is the mechanism that allows them to be so well differentiated from eggs shells?

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