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Old 11th March 2005   #1
devon
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Hey everyone,

I know this isn't a frog forum, but I figure you can help me...

My albino pacman frog has injured his leg somehow. I have no idea how he could have possibley done it...he's on bed-a-beast, and has a shallow waterdish with a smooth stone, and a silk plant. There's nothing sharp or rough in his tank.

It looks really swollen and is a strange shape...I'm pretty sure it's not broken, because he's holding it normally, and he's not acting any differently. He ate a cricket a few minutes ago.

I'll upload a picture of his leg:

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It looks redder then normal, but I don't think it's red leg...I just think a lot of blood is gathering there because of the wound.

What should I do?



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Old 11th March 2005   #2
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I definitely wouldn't rule out redleg, especially if there isn't any other plausible cause for the wound. Ceratophrys are especially suseptible to redleg infections due to their squatting nature. If going to the vet isn't an option, then I would suggest treating it for redleg.

(Message edited by tmarmoratus on March 11, 2005)



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Old 12th March 2005   #3
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Do you have any recommended red leg treatments, that I can get at a drug store? I'm really worried about him...he has a good appetite, and is eating now, but that doesn't nessacarily mean he's ok...He's on toilet paper right now, in a fresh tank and clean dechlorinated water (the toilet paper is moist too)

I need to do something really quickly...I will be heartbroken if this guy dies.

I don't take my frogs out of the cage everyday...most people don't! Once every few days, I'll take them out for a checkover...I don't like digging them out of their holes every day! He wasn't like this a few days ago Click the image to open in full size.Click the image to open in full size.

Help!



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Old 12th March 2005   #4
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Also, putting neosporin on the open wound after the bath should help to heal the skin. I'd also recommend using paper towels as substrate while he recovers.



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Old 12th March 2005   #5
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alright, good idea. I'll go out and get some betadine and neosporin.

Last night, before I went to bed, I gave him a bath in some water with melafix in it...I'm assuming you know what that is, but in case you don't...it's melaleuca oil, and is used for fish as an all natural and effective treatment for fin rots, fungus, open wounds, etc...

This morning, the swelling has gone down A LOT, the wound no longer smells, and his legs are not nearly as red. I'll take some pictures a little later.

Do you think more melafix baths would be useful?



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Old 12th March 2005   #6
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I was recommended against melafix when I asked other forum members about it. It's a herbal remedy and has little/no scientific backing, it may even be slightly toxic. On the other hand, if it seems to be working then you might not want to stop.



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Old 12th March 2005   #7
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Well, It definitley works for fish 0_0 I got a male betta from a guy who didnt want to put in the effort to repair the damaged fins that his cichlids ate...and the melafix had his fins fixed up in less then a week.

Last night, when I put him in the melafix, I just bathed the injured leg, and then rinsed him off in dechlorinated water before putting him back in the tank. Since I wasn't quite sure about it, I didn't allow his entire body to soak.



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Old 13th March 2005   #8
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I have a no name brand of "neosporin" as neosporin and polysporin are both owned by an animal testing company, which I like to avoid.

The medicinal ingredients are: Bacltracin 500 units, polymyxin B sulfate 10,00 units.

It also has white petrolatum.

Is this alright?


With regular, brand-name, neosporin...the ingredients are the same, except neosporin only has 400 units of bacltracin and only 5000 units of the polymyxin, and it has another medicinal ingredient that my stuff doesn't have....neomycin.



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Old 13th March 2005   #9
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Oh, actually, the stuff I have is exactly like polysporin. Same ingredients, with the same units. Is polysporin alright to use on frog injuries? If so, this would also be fine.



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Old 13th March 2005   #10
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help? Please?



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Old 13th March 2005   #11
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Devon, Have you read this???

http://www.caudata.org/cc/articles/sores.shtml

It helped me out alot when I needed help for an open wound. I to use the polysporin, and I find it works just fine



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Old 13th March 2005   #12
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"I have a no name brand of "neosporin" as neosporin and polysporin are both owned by an animal testing company, which I like to avoid."

What do you think we're doing with it? We use it on animals to help heal their wounds too.

And I'm not so sure it's red-leg, if it was it wouldn't be acting normally, but if what you're doing is helping it's leg wound then keep trying it.
You may want to check the edges of the water bowl, just because they're not exposed doesn't mean it can't get to them.
Also he could of done it just hopping around at night, they tend to bang off of the glass a lot at night, maybe it hurt itself doing that, or maybe it hit the stone wrong.



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Old 13th March 2005   #13
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Ah, well, yes, I know that we're putting it on our animals to heal our wounds, but animal testing is a lot different...like the draize test, where they use rabbits (because they don't have tear ducts) and smear the chemicals in their eyes, and leave it there for days, and record what happens. Or they inject it under their skin, or shave off a layer of their skin and rub it into the wound.

I'm going to buy some tetracyclin today...I went to petsmart and petcetera, and neither had it...I went to the pharmacy, but you need to have a prescription...I'm going to try the 'All Care Vet & Pet' but they're closed today, so I'll go tomorrow...he's looking a bit better today! I'll take some pictures later.

Thanks a lot for all of your help Click the image to open in full size.Click the image to open in full size.



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