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Warty Newts (Paramesotriton & Laotriton) & Paddletail Newts (Pachytriton Often sold incorrectly as Japanese fire-bellied newts, these territorial newts are distinct from other genera and very interesting in their own right.

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Old 12th February 2018   #1
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Default what is the proper gh for laoensis?

I raise laoensis. But there is no information about gh. What about gh fit for Laoensis?

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Default Re: what is the proper gh for laoensis?

Do you mean "Ph"?



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Default Re: what is the proper gh for laoensis?

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Do you mean "Ph"?
no...the general hardness



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Default Re: what is the proper gh for laoensis?

Gh stands for general hardness. It's a measure of calcium and magnesium ions in solution.
I don't actually know what you would want for laotriton, but based on its habitat, I wouldn't make the water too hard.



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Default Re: what is the proper gh for laoensis?

They are pretty hardy animals. I'm not sure what the preferred hardness is. Their is a lot of limestone in our area and my water is fairly hard. The Laotriton do well.



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Default Re: what is the proper gh for laoensis?

I personally would not be concerned with GH at all, unless for some reason you've got extremely hard water. I think it is much more important to prevent swings in hardness and osmotic shock, which ironically can sometimes occur when someone is trying "correct" GH!

I couldn't find any GH info but there are reported stream measurements for laoensis indicating that the pH of their stream habitat ranges from 5-6. As mentioned, pH is not a measure of GH, but these relatively low pH values are certainly consistent with a low GH.



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Default Re: what is the proper gh for laoensis?

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I personally would not be concerned with GH at all, unless for some reason you've got extremely hard water. I think it is much more important to prevent swings in hardness and osmotic shock, which ironically can sometimes occur when someone is trying "correct" GH!

I couldn't find any GH info but there are reported stream measurements for laoensis indicating that the pH of their stream habitat ranges from 5-6. As mentioned, pH is not a measure of GH, but these relatively low pH values are certainly consistent with a low GH.
yes..Maybe I just focused too much on the detail of the water.

I should focus more on the basic areas, such as ph, no2, and no3.

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Default Re: what is the proper gh for laoensis?

I agree with others that it is not very important compared to other common water quality metrics.

If you want my personal target numbers:
ph: 6.4
gh: 5
kh: 3



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