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Hi.

I was wondering if someone could identify what it is I have?
I was given these, as the previous owner couldn't be bother with them.


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Before anyone flames me, or anything, the one is very thin and ill looking, but they both don't look too great tbh, but I wanna help them :)



I've set up the tank for salamanders in general, but prob not quite correct...
I have Bog wood, moss, coconut and bark flooring, heat mat under one side, damp air etc...

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If someone could tell me what it is, I have, and any more info would be great.


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I don't know what they are, but they look like they might need to be in the water :confused: Maybe provide a water area? How were they kept before you received them?
 
slowfoot said:
I don't know what they are, but they look like they might need to be in the water :confused: Maybe provide a water area? How were they kept before you received them?
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Really bad!
They we just left on Gravel, with a stale/non-livable water bowl, but the bowl was very shallow.

I have put a deep flower pot dish in there now with fresh water in, atm the thiner one hasn't moved since I put them into there tank, the bigger one has hidden underneth some of the wood.
 
I really have no idea what species they are- could they possibly be Spanish ribbed newts (Pleurodeles waltl)? Here is a link to their care sheet- http://www.caudata.org/cc/species/Pleurodeles/P_waltl.shtml

If they are, they are entirely aquatic. If not, check through the Caudata Culture species section to try and identify them- http://www.caudata.org/cc/species/species.shtml

Just a note- They won't need a heating pad- all it will do is make them uncomfortable.

It's great of you to take them in, Good Luck!:D
 
I don't mind taking them on, there different, just want to look after them properly.
But without knowing what they are, I have no idea :(

I have been told they could be Grey Tiger Salamanders?
 
Those are definitely Pleurodeles waltl, and like Nathan said, aquatic. Boy are they lucky you found them.
 
otterwoman said:
Those are definitely Pleurodeles waltl, and like Nathan said, aquatic. Boy are they lucky you found them.
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Thanks for confirming that :)

Are they Fully aquatic or half aquatic?
 
They are fully aquatic, but it can't hurt to have a rock or something breaking the surface. Especially since these ones have spent so much time out of a pond, it might make them more comfortable.
 
I hope you have them in water right now because they look really dry.
 
They're not right at this moment in time.
But I have given them a good drenching with warm rain water, they seem to of perked up a bit now they're in a warmer envioment!

Off down the pet shop tomorrow to pick up a water heater, and what nots :)

Are there any sort of live water plants that are NOT ideal for the little mites?
 
Dogmatix said:
They're not right at this moment in time.
But I have given them a good drenching with warm rain water, they seem to of perked up a bit now they're in a warmer envioment!

Off down the pet shop tomorrow to pick up a water heater, and what nots :)

Are there any sort of live water plants that are NOT ideal for the little mites?
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I think I would get them into some de-chlorinated water as soon as possible, even if it's only in a temporary container. They will not need a water heater -- I believe this species prefers cooler temps.
 
Like Slowfoot has said, the cooler the better. Warm temperatures can stress and possibly even kill them; a water heater would just be a waste of money. Did you read the care-sheet that I linked you? It should tell you most of the basic information that you should know.
 
I did browse thought it earlier.
Maybe i should go abck and read it properly now I know what they are...
 
Ok they are now in a gollon jug of water - all I could find right now...
Sank to the bottom, and stayed there at the mo...

Its pure rain water too... so they should be ok :)

Are there any vitamins or anything I can add to the water?
I own a Map Turtle too, and I use some water treatment once a day, a drop a day adds vits and minareals, I was wondering if I can get or even use the same for the Newts?

I wanna help them, I feel bad for them now :(
 
Be careful - they could drown! I know this sounds contradictory, but even aquatic newts can drown, and if they are in a weakened state, I would worry about this. The need a place to climb out of the water, or perhaps just very shallow water for starters. Also, they can climb, so be sure they always have a secure lid.
 
Well they were put into some water last night, and this morning, they were actually moving!!

But been out this morining, and got a few bits to convert a dry, humid tank to a water tank :)
Look how much better they look!!

This is them this morning...
As you can see, the colouring has changed!
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This is them in the new tank set up, bog wood, and lots of hidy holes, as you can see... this is bob saying hello :p

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And Sid, feeling a bit camera shy!
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I am so glad now that it seems I have started them on the road of recoverary :D
 
I'm guessing the tank probably isn't cycled. If so, then you're going to be needing to do daily water changes.
 
oregon newt said:
I'm guessing the tank probably isn't cycled. If so, then you're going to be needing to do daily water changes.
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What do you mean by Cycled?

As in the pump moving the water round, making the water do a slow, very slow, round the tank movement?
 
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