C. cyanurus morphs!

I'm going to figure out how to heat the water. Maybe in a few weeks I will transfer them all into 10 gallon tanks that way I can use small aquarium heaters since my basement is at 64-65 degrees. I will keep them seperated by size.

Currently feeding them chopped black worms, some white worms, and newly hatch bbs. I will have to try chopped earthworms next. I change the water daily. I need to find a quicker way to do that but that is a different discussion.
 
Mitch,

I have your brothers and sisters Cyanurus I believe. Mine are doing great, no breeding though. Can you provide some closeups of your Males?

Thanks,
Matt
 
Congratulations on the eggs, Mitch:D

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I'm going to figure out how to heat the water. Maybe in a few weeks I will transfer them all into 10 gallon tanks that way I can use small aquarium heaters since my basement is at 64-65 degrees.
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Are they eating well, rick? If so, then the temperature is not an issue. If not, then you really need to warm them up immediately. In a few weeks it may be too late. Another option might be to move them to a warmer area of the house.
 
Congratulations on the eggs, Mitch:D
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Thanks Jen!

I'm going to figure out how to heat the water. Maybe in a few weeks I will transfer them all into 10 gallon tanks that way I can use small aquarium heaters since my basement is at 64-65 degrees. I will keep them separated by size.
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I kept mine in 14L containers and I used a aquarium heater that is fully submersible and does not get really hot to the touch like old aquarium heaters. In winter I see around 62-65 degrees and did not want to risk losing these guys to low temperature. I have seen some older posts with some people that had "mystery" deaths that were later linked to low temps.

I have your brothers and sisters Cyanurus I believe. Mine are doing great, no breeding though. Can you provide some closeups of your Males?
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I have only one decent shot of one of the males. They are definitely smaller in size than the females. The tail patterns are quite different than females as well, usually containing large blotchy black "spots". And of course now they have a beautiful blue sheen. Brothers and sisters hey? How many do you currently have and what is their color range? Mine are mostly light tan/brown with a couple that are medium brown.

Mitch
 

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Hey Mitch,

I have two Males and three Females. The Males are more grey than brown, and are smaller than the girls.

Here's a shot of one of the girls from four months or so ago.
 

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Urm, Mitch? That male is in full breeding condition. If those eggs of yours are infertile, I'll eat my hat.
 
I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high, and that just gets me more excited! :D The male in the picture is a little stud and has probably tail fanned every female in the tank. I have not seen any spermatospores until just yesterday. I was inspecting the tank and found the spore (slightly suspended off the floor) and another egg hidden in the java moss.

I am assuming the female in the picture with the eggs (above) is the one laying them as she is the largest one. This is all purely based on assumption, but she does look like she will pop any second. I have seen some pretty strong courting from all the females at all times of the day. As I said before they are quite young (approx. one year) so I have my fingers crossed and my exceptions low.

I have removed the three eggs and put them in a separate container. I am taking micro shots each day to note any change and to keep ongoing record.

Mitch
 
When is sexual maturity and how is breeding induced in this species? Mitch put them in a more aquatic tank with, I think, deeper water. I going to get this species and cant find any info really. Also are the adults sensitive to cold water also, or just larvae and juvies?
 
I noticed while feeding today, about a dozen eggs in their tank also. They look to be duds though unfortunately. Pretty neat on the timing with mine and yours though.
 
I noticed while feeding today, about a dozen eggs in their tank also. They look to be duds though unfortunately. Pretty neat on the timing with mine and yours though.
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That is great news Greewok, and your right the timing thing is crazy! It was planned ;)

I don't know the status of mine are either. We will have to wait and see, I wish us both luck.

When is sexual maturity and how is breeding induced in this species? Mitch put them in a more aquatic tank with, I think, deeper water. I going to get this species and cant find any info really. Also are the adults sensitive to cold water also, or just larvae and juvies?
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Talking to others and based on personal experience I would say that sexual maturity would be around one and a half years. With that being said if Greewok or my eggs turn out to be fertile this would mean they can be sexual maturity as early as a year old.

As for inducing breeding I don't think there is anything special with these guys. I saw the plumpness in my females before moving them, who knows what would have happened had I left them in the same tank. I did move them into a more aquatic tank and yes that might have triggered the males but like I said, who knows. I have heard from others that keeping the water quality good, enough room and PLENTY of food is all you need. I can say that I was feeding every other day and they were all eating everything is sight.

I cannot comment to much on the sensitivity to temps that much. All I know is the larvae (and juvies) should be kept around 70 degrees to avoid any complications.

Mitch
 
Could the larvae be raised with the adults with Cynops Cyanurus? I dont expect a ton to make it but would a few? Also would they do ok in deeper water(12-18inches)?
 
Well after waiting about a week the original eggs I found plus a couple more here and there were all duds. It was around 8 total and I never found more than two at a time. The females still are significantly plump and the two males are still dressed up (one male is completely blue sheen now, the other has just the tail sheen) so I still have my hopes high.

How about the others?

Were your eggs fertile Matt? Have you seen anymore since the first find?

Merk199, how are your larvae doing?

Mitch
 
All duds too Mitch, there's been about 30 eggs so far. They are still laying them as we speak.
 
This is exciting to follow. I wish everyone breeding success!:happy:
 
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All duds too Mitch, there's been about 30 eggs so far. They are still laying them as we speak.
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Time to eat my own words, looks like one of the females is laying fertile eggs. I pulled about 8 out tonight....Now the fun begins :eek:
 
Thats GREAT news! My female just laid around 12 eggs yesterday night but its because I feed her yesterday so she was just making room. :rolleyes: So more duds, this will make around 30 total over the last couple of weeks.

I wish you all the best. Keep us updated!!

Mitch
 
<sacrifices package of Top Ramen to the FSM>

I am praying you get some fertile eggs soon!

I am very excited to learn more about this species.

keep up the good work!:blob:
 
I have 27 larvae that are almost eight weeks old. There are the whoppers, medium size, and a few runts. Everyone is eating well and still looking healthy. I will be glad when they morph all the water changes every day and the bbs feedings can be time consuming....

I also have 7 cynops orientalis. It is interesting that all seven are larger than all the cyranus. And there is not a variation in size between them.

In two weeks or so I am going to need to up the FF cultures I start a week I think...:D
 
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