T. kweichowensis variations?

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I have noticed in recent weeks several ads selling WC T. kweichowensis. The animals pictured in these ads are somewhat different looking than the ones that I have, specifically the tubercles along the back are more pronounced. Does anyone know of any specific variations in this species. To my knowledge there are no subspecies however I could very well be mistaken.
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freves said:
I have noticed in recent weeks several ads selling WC T. kweichowensis. The animals pictured in these ads are somewhat different looking than the ones that I have, specifically the tubercles along the back are more pronounced. Does anyone know of any specific variations in this species. To my knowledge there are no subspecies however I could very well be mistaken.
Chip
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I have noticed the same thing but don't have any answers for you.

Travis
 
I've seen some w/c animals on kingsnake that are different from those I have. I think it's due to the localisation of the animals.
I don't know if it's possible, but maybe it's a crossbreed with T. shanjing.
 
The idea of a hybrid crossed my mind as well, however I think that it may be more likely to be a localized form as you mentioned. So what do we call it, kweichowensis B?
Chip
 
are you guys talking about this ? I have got 10 of them, and I am sure they are not hybrid, coz I have seen more than 300 of them. thank you
 

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Wow! We are dealing with new subspecies!! Never thought! Nice appointment.:blob: :blob:
Chip.
 
There is no arguing that the physical differences while minor, are distinct. Obviously a proper study will need to be done in order to learn more. In the mean time so many of these animals are showing up on KS that I hope that those purchasing them keep them separated from any existing kweichows. T. kweichowensis have only rarely ever been bred in the US however it would only take one breeding to create a bunch of potential hybrids.
Chip
 
Probably just localization, the ones I have sound like yours too Chip.
 
I've had the pleasure/displeasure of seeing several hundred kweichowensis collected from one geographic area all together in a wholesaler's. This is normal variation - some animals have almost no tubercles and some have very pronounced ones. This is not a new subspecies or species, they are all the same species, all from the same area.
 
yes, it has even been noted that sexual dimorphisms within the Tylototriton genus seem to vary widely depending on geographical locations of certain species.
 
Thanks for the information. I do not have the time, space, and money to setup another group of kweichows anyway but it makes that OCD part of my personality feel a little better about not having to collect the whole set.
Chip
 
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