Tylototriton pulcherrima,2012

Fantastic creatures! And happy Mid-Autumn Festival, Dr Zhang~
 
Hi do you know of the locality of these newts? Where in China they are from?
This type has been in the latest UK Imports lately,they are very bright and beautifull,any information you can find would be excellent,thanks
 
They distribute in only two towns in China.
Tylototriton is protecteted speciease in China.
Sorry，i can not tell the detail locality here.
UK inpormt them？action so quickly.
They distribute in country which near China too.



mr cyclone said:
Hi do you know of the locality of these newts? Where in China they are from?
This type has been in the latest UK Imports lately,they are very bright and beautifull,any information you can find would be excellent,thanks
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These animals arrived here in the U.K a few months ago .Which provence are these animals from ?.
I understand the need to keep the exact town names.Which provence do they hail?
And which temperatures and climate do they recieve? .They are truely beautifull animals
 
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mr cyclone said:
These animals arrived here in the U.K a few months ago .Which provence are these animals from ?.
I understand the need to keep the exact town names.Which provence do they hail?
And which temperatures and climate do they recieve? .They are truely beautifull animals
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Yunan Province.
male:125.5-144.8mm
female:133.6-139.4mm
live in forest (elevation 1450-1550m)
dense vegetation and wet
highest air temperature is 36℃
lowest air temperature is 1℃
active in night and rainy day
hunt small inscets and mollusc
gather in slow rivulet and static pool when May and June, mating and laying eggs

English is poor :D:D:D
 
They really are bright collared
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One CH larve I got late this summer. Picts was taken in July when I was in China, and it is in my Kunming home now. My family said it is much bigger now and almost close to metamorphosis.
 

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Nice individuals i was all this week reading about the new species in the Tylototriton genre, very interesting!
 
No. T.pulcherimma was described last year in the same paper with T.yangi, T.pseudoverrucosus, and T.lizhenchangi, in Chinese. T.daweishanensis was described early this year from Western Yunnan. The two Thai species were just described together in English, and are posted in another thread.
 
Thanks! Seems I didn't read the paper very well since I missed pulcherrima. Then again I was only reading it because I called my Yangi's "T.cf.kweichowensis" long enough at that time.
 
This population is one of several mitochondrial clades of similar appearance and close relationship., and is sister to typical T.shanjing. As all four clades except this one are included in T.shanjing, this name has been synonymized with the latter. I would not be surprised if at some point it regains recognition as one of several subspecies of T.shanjing.
 
FrogEyes said:
No. T.pulcherimma was described last year in the same paper with T.yangi, T.pseudoverrucosus, and T.lizhenchangi, in Chinese. T.daweishanensis was described early this year from Western Yunnan. The two Thai species were just described together in English, and are posted in another thread.
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I seriously doubt the validity of T. daweishanensis cuz the morphological diagnostic features in the paper make no sense at all.... The Chinese abstract is different from the English one in terms of data provided. In English abstract it stated "forelimbs are longer than the hindlimbs", but in Chinese, the author stated "forelimb longer than hindlimb, or hindlimb longer than forelimb"(前肢长于后肢或后肢略长). I mean, how can that possibly be a feature? The sample size is only 6, so the data does not has any statistical value when describing the population.
Beside, they only use mDNA to support the validity, which is not convincing at all.
 
At the most basic level, T.daweishanensis is visibly and genetically distinct from T.verrucosus (which is at least two species still anyway) and from T.shanjing, regardless of the limited quality of data provided. What I think really calls for more study is the fact that the locality data I have accumulated seems to show that T.daweishanensis is sympatric or nearly sympatric with T.yangi. I have seen on animal resembling T.daweishanensis several years ago among a bunch of T.yangi, have heard of another, and just saw a third online yesterday. The description of this species did not include nominate T.yangi, so it's possible that these are aberrant or highland specimens or a localized population of T.yangi. When studied separately, both T.yangi and T.daweishanensis come out as sister to Yunnan T.shanjing. See Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/NewtsAndSalamanders/ posting by Andre-Arthur Kweldam, photo of T.yangi enclosure with one animal resembling T.daweishanensis.
 
The populations of Tylototriton I saw in N. Thailand (at Chiang Dao and Doi Inthanon) were all similar to one another and looked nothing like T. yangi. I may be mistaken (i haven't followed the new descriptions in detail), but I think at least one of these populations is supposed be T. daweishanensis amd they looked nothing like T. shanjing or T. yangi. There are photos on the article in caudata culture as well as the one in my avatar.
 
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