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Edit to add: Just came in from feeding the denizens of the pond (and the ducks too, they're too chonky and can't get into the pond thankfully). And while I didn't see him actually eat something I did see him snapping like the turtles do, except he was snapping down instead of up, so I don't know if he found something in the mix of feed that he thought was good for eating or if he was just being weird. but hopefully he ate something!
Good morning! so, I walked into the locally owned petstore in town a few days ago. I know the lady pretty well since I get a lot of fish and supplies from her. When I got there she asked me to help her identify a creature she was given, it had come in with some feeder fish to another place and was rescued because someone thought it was an axolotl. All she knew for sure was that it was not an axolotl because it didn't look right AND preferred to be out of the water on the sunning bed (she had it in with her little turtles). I told her that it looked like a salamander to me, and since she had it here I went with tiger because I believe that is our most common local variety. However she did point out that it came in from Minnesota. At any rate she offered it to me and so I now currently have it in my turtle pond in the backyard (he still has his gills even if he prefers to be out of the water more). He does not have access to a dirt area yet, just free floating bark/logs. I am however working on setting up my indoor turtle pond for the winter (since my outdoor one is above ground and ill equipped for winter) and I plan to have a floating dock in that with dirt for the basking area (it is long enough that it will have a cool end and a warm end). In the mean time I don't know all that much about salamanders. As far as I can tell he hasn't eaten since we got him. We have offered him meal worms and earth worms. I plan to go put some blood worms into the pond today for which ever creatures wish to eat it. My tank is badly stocked as it turns out, since I have goldfish in with my turtles, but we are hoping to fix it a bit once we have everything set up for winter. I am also hoping that I keep everything well enough fed that the turtles don't munch on the goldfish too much. The turtles i have are three red-eared sliders and are the size of a half dollar coin, so just tiny babies at the moment.

So! any advice would be appreciated, and if we can possibly identify him that would be amazing. Thank you in advance!


~Madeline
 

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it looks like some type of tiger salamander, though it could be an axolotl experiencing metamorphosis. either way, care should be the same as that for a tiger salamander.
be cautious keeping it with turtles though as they might think it a juicy snack.
 
it looks like some type of tiger salamander, though it could be an axolotl experiencing metamorphosis. either way, care should be the same as that for a tiger salamander.
be cautious keeping it with turtles though as they might think it a juicy snack.
yah, I'm thinking about setting up a 20 gallon for it instead, since i was reading that they prefer to burrow? so it'll need more dirt.... If I do this do I want the water section (I assume they'd need a pool area) to be separate like in a tub? or can i let the water touch the dirt? will that cause rotting? I'm wracking my brain trying to think of what all to do for this thing, he doesn't seem happy floating in the water of the pond, except that he dives under when he thinks there's a threat, but otherwise he just floats along the top...
 
yah, I'm thinking about setting up a 20 gallon for it instead, since i was reading that they prefer to burrow? so it'll need more dirt.... If I do this do I want the water section (I assume they'd need a pool area) to be separate like in a tub? or can i let the water touch the dirt? will that cause rotting? I'm wracking my brain trying to think of what all to do for this thing, he doesn't seem happy floating in the water of the pond, except that he dives under when he thinks there's a threat, but otherwise he just floats along the top...
i think he needs water as long as he still has gills...
when it becomes an adult, you could just throw in a water dish that is changed out frequently.
 
i think he needs water as long as he still has gills...
when it becomes an adult, you could just throw in a water dish that is changed out frequently.
do you think a 20 long is enough for him? and should i make the dirt pretty deep if they like to burrow? would it be better to "make" a burrow like with a piece of wood or w/e under the dirt and a hole leading to it ? or let him do it himself? i plan to have the kids dig up any earthworms as they can to put in the tank and hope he can find them... I was ill prepared for this but going to try to do the best i can for it
 
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