Adf ill - advice needed

[paul]

Hi I keep two male adf's together. They fight sometimes but i have noticed one is now the stronger. The other seems to have become weakened and is staying at the top of the tank, recently not seeming interested in food. i noticed a week or so ago that his snout looked a little deformed and this evening i saw him repeatedly swim and butt at the water surface. He has what looks like a flap of skin hanging off his belly and is just staying at the top also looking slighly thin. I have moved it too a small tank and begun treating with melafix. I wonder if he just needs to build up strenghth as the stronger seemed to be excluding him from food i dropped in. any advice greatfully accepted. regards Paul

 

[paul]

Hi the Adf passed away. I noticed he had a number of raised lumps in front of his eyes and around his jaw line. They were large in comparison to his size and light colored. I am thinking they were blocking his breathing(he was swimming and butting at surface) and ability to eat. the only other sign of illness was his stomach was black and this seemed to lead to his rear. I think he got tumours but maybe he had an intestinal blockage? he was around 2.5 years old. Please could anyone give me thoughts on cause of death? regards Paul

 

[alex]

the best spot for frog/toad advice is "pollywog" the guy who runs it is a breeder he gives great advise and usually gets back to you pretty quick, not that the guys here dont, just think theyre more into sals and newts.

 

[martin]

Hello Paul,
please look here for the treating of wounds: http://pipidae.net/faq_illness.php

Tumors are rare on ADCFs. They are quite common for labor bred X. laevis Albino.

You can try to increase the water temperature to 30°C or a little bit more for one ot tweo hours. Check if the frog has lost feaces.

Although you can try to feed other food. Please look here: http://pipidae.net/adcf_food.php

ADCFs is a synonym for ADFs. ADCFs is the common name in literature. To determine ACFs form ADFs more surely I am using ADCFs on my website.

Bye Martin

 

[paul]

Hi martin thanks for the reply and i have your site in my favourites. I think the fella became stressed at the other male dominating him and was therefore suceptible to infection. I would like to work out what type of infection as fungal and bacterial need different treatments. regards Paul

 

[bruce]

Hi Paul,
In terms of determining the type of infection, you really need to take samples (smears/scrapes, possibly even biopsy in some cases)from the lesions and examine them microscopically - recommended in all cases of skin problems. Unless you are familiar with these procedures (and, except in the case of superficial impression smears, have access to appropriate analgesics if in live animals) you should get your vet to do these. If the animal died of course a full post-mortem examination would give give more information, but would need to be carried out soon after the frog passed away.
Hope this helps, Bruce.

 

[paul]

Hi bruce i have given him a funeral already. he's buried in my garden

 

[martin]

Hello Paul,
could notice some changes before the frog died?

Bye Martin