Any good toads for captivity? Toad breeders out there?

XenopusLaevis

New member
Joined
Apr 20, 2017
Messages
14
Reaction score
0
Points
1
Location
NJ
Country
United States
Hey guys, I was wondering what toads do you think do well in captivity? I'd rather not keep something smaller than the american toads-- though I might make an exception for Oak toads- but the problem with them is I heard they live only 2-4 years tops.

I like the idea of american toads, cane toads, colorado river toads, rococo toads(which I never find for sale-- ever) but I have yet to seen any of them be captive bred...

Problem with most W/C stuff is that they don't always adapt well to captivity and they come with parasite loads. I once had a cane toad and it died 30-40minutes after it had gone home. It looked "okay" when I picked it up, but it suddenly turned for the worse when it spewed a big white glob which I assume was a parasite load- and died on the spot.

I could do fecal exam (provided by the vet) but it would be rather pricey if it dies after the exam....

I used to live in an area that had lots of cane toads and they were surprisingly bold. People hate them over there as they're highly invasive and screw up the ecosystem . But any ive seen in captivity didn't seem to do well, or died soon after....

I was thinking maybe id buy an albino woodhouse toad as that would mean captive bred but I havent found one in a long time.
 

Purpletotodile

New member
Joined
Oct 17, 2016
Messages
40
Reaction score
2
Points
0
Location
Wisconsin, United States
Country
United States
Display Name
Ultra Frog
In my opinion the best toad is a cane/marine toad. Plenty of people also own Japanese common toads, bufo japonicus. The best place to get a toad is a reptile show, but there's a 50/50 chance they won't have one.
 

XenopusLaevis

New member
Joined
Apr 20, 2017
Messages
14
Reaction score
0
Points
1
Location
NJ
Country
United States
In my opinion the best toad is a cane/marine toad. Plenty of people also own Japanese common toads, bufo japonicus. The best place to get a toad is a reptile show, but there's a 50/50 chance they won't have one.

Cane toads would be the best if they were captive bred and/or at least long term captives before being sold and made sure they had a fecal exam done + medicated. I think I heard some places charge less if you bring a large quantity of animals in... I dont know or some kind of discount with small animals like that. Like they'd only charge for the one.

Never seen the japanese common toads for sale... As for reptile shows, they're quite far from where I live... and if it's a 50/50 chance it seems like a waste almost to just get the chance to -maybe- see a toad...

Besides I'd like to be able to get a 100% chance to be able to see reviews on the seller/breeder before making a decision... considering traveling through breeders is like a land mine... There are a lot of bad reptile & amphibian breeders/sellers... I can name 10-15 right off the tip of my hand... and the thing is they can seem good at first but when you get to deal with them you get screwed. I make it a habit that if I buy something, I only deal with well established sellers and in this case breeders with a repertoire of positive sales for years. This is how I know I am not going to be screwed over.


Local Pet Stores aren't an option because quite frankly, the workers are only there to make a quick buck- and so are the owners usually which is rather sad.


I have yet to own something from a petstore that hasn't died within the first few days.... Ranging from fish, to frogs, to a couple of snakes...

I had a cane toad who I got from a local "reputable" pet store who people swore by only that I'd have it throw up a glob of white goopy grossness and die immediately....

Actually only one thing survived from a petstore, an african clawed frog I bought like years ago and it survived somehow
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • Chamoxnle:
    My new axolotl enjoys floating. He doesn't seem stressed, or like he's being forced to float. He just likes to chill at the top. Why do some enjoy floating around? Most of my other axolotls are content staying stationary, but this one just continues to move, only stopping to eat. Again, he doesn't seem stressed, and it's not a fretful swim.
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    Hi, Im fairly new to keeping axolotls. I have to lil buddies that I got a few months back. They were doing fine, up until a month ago when one got fungus in his gills. Took him out to fridge him, then the other guy got it too. I'm currently fridging both and doing salt baths for one (not enough fridge space to keep that much pretreated water for both at the same time). Its been hard to tell if its helping or not and then about a week and half ago one of my axies had a bunch of weird white goop in the water. I immediately changed it, happened a tiny bit again, then seemed to be okay. I had returned him to the tank, but it happened again. Back to the fridge but wanted hear from people who knew more
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    I have pictures. Tried looking through other peoples questions, but couldnt find the same white goop.
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    @Kailynom My cousin (who i got my baby axies from) had the same problem. She developed an allergy to the bloodworms she was feeding them and it got really bad. To the point where her throat would close up just being around the bloodworms. Happened within a few months. Be safe :)
    +1
    Unlike
  • madcaplaughs:
    @MadamePirateOwl Fridging is best left to life-or-death situations, and salt baths are unnecessarily harsh, stressful, and abrasive. I'd suggest doing tea baths instead (using caffeinated black tea, where the only ingredient is black tea).
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    so no idea what the goop is?
    +1
    Unlike
  • madcaplaughs:
    Hard to tell without a photo, but might be algae or fungus floating. Water changes will take care of that.
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    It definitely came from the axolotl. Looked to be mixed into poo the first time. Can I post the photos here?
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    Im not actually sure how i would post it. It seems to want a link
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    Its fairly thick and chunky
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    (Also thanks for your patience and help!)
    +1
    Unlike
  • madcaplaughs:
    You could always upload the photo to imgur and link it back here
    +1
    Unlike
  • Unlike
  • Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    The second image was how it looked the first time, it was mixed with some other poop like stuff. after that its been small and without the poopy stuff
    +1
    Unlike
  • madcaplaughs:
    The second photo looks reminiscent of partially-digested worms, though I've never seen anything like that. Have you checked your parameters lately?
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    Right now theyre in smaller tubs that i do daily water changes in
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    I'll admit Ive bought test strips but they havent come in yet
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    I use Prime to dechlorinate the water, which was recommend by the girl I got them from
    +1
    Unlike
  • madcaplaughs:
    For now I'd tub the axolotl and do daily 100% water changes until you're able to test your parameters
    +1
    Unlike
  • madcaplaughs:
    I'd also recommend ordering a liquid test kit such as the API Freshwater Master Test Kit since strips are generally unreliable and inaccurate.
    +1
    Unlike
  • MadamePirateOwl:
    Okay, thank you for your help and advice :)
    +1
    Unlike
  • k.em:
    anybody growing tylototriton?
    +2
    Unlike
  • pixxie:
    +1
    Unlike
  • pixxie:
    hi I’m looking for some insight, it would really help if you could check out what I have written^
    +1
    Unlike
    pixxie: hi I’m looking for some insight, it would really help if you could check out what I have written^ +1
    Top