Axie back legs hugging the body

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And he is also having problems staying on his belly! :(
He's been in the fridge for the last 3 days and not really eating.
He doesn't seem to be getting worse. Am I doing the right thing?
 
Hi jsinwunsch,

Axolotls do weird things with their back legs, and this in itself is not necessarily an indication of a problem. If he is having trouble staying on his belly, you can reduce the water level so that it just covers him, so that he can't float. It is also common for axolotls in the fridge to eat less or not at all.

Why is he in the fridge, then?

-Eva
 
He was in my 55 gallon when I found him on his back with all legs tucked in. I assumed he was dead but he kinda paddled upside down away from me. I noticed that he still had use of his front legs but his back legs looked like they had bursted blood vessels in them! He's in the fridge now but i'm not sure if that'll do any good. At least he's not on his back though.
 
Hm, I've not really seen an axlotl actually paddle while on its back. The burst blood vessels could be a sign of impaction, in which case fridging is the right thing to do. Do you notice anything else about him like swelling or discoloration? How is he doing today?

-Eva
 
I don't really notice any discoloration besides the red looking veins that appeared on his back legs. He's still in the fridge and even though the water is lowered just enough to cover him, he still manages to end up on his back which is always not fun to see.
 
Do you notice any signs like twitching/spasming, opening and closing mouth frequently, holding contorted positions or incoordinated swimming?

Could you possibly provide a video clip or photo of the axie showing the condition?

What is the usual diet? Does the axie have a high feeder fish/ white fish meat diet?
 
Nothing really in the way of twitching or gasping, he just sits there with just his two front legs out and his hind legs clenched to body.
He easily turns upside down and struggles a little to right himself but then gives up and just looks dead upside down.
Maybe its a bladder problem???

Food is turtle sticks, blood worms and occasionally newt pellets. I was feeding earth worms from outside until this place became a frozen death tundra.
 
Axies do not have a swim bladder unlike fish. They orientate their positions and coordinate their movements mainly through the central nervous system. Balance and fine motor control are performed by functions of the vestibular and cerebellar centres in the brain. This is further fine tuned by the lateral sensory line along the sides of the body which contains special movement, chemical and even electromagnetic receptors. Axies with balancing problems have a neurological deficit.

There are many causes of this. Sometimes direct physical trauma to the spinous or nerve regions on the body can cause inflammation and bruising. Toxicity from nitrogenous wastes or other water contaminants as well as malnutrition (Vit B defiency/anaemia) and certain pathogens like bacteria can all cause brain tissue damage. Sadly, the vast majority of neurological problems cannot be 100% cured but there are treatment options to improve the condition.

In some rare cases, impaction and constipation can present with upside down or contorted posturing. Impacted material tend to be 'solid and firm' and thus capable of causing compression. Think of a huge ball in the intestines pressing against the spinous nerves. Because axie's are soft bodied, have a 'tubular body' and their alimnentary tract runs parallel to the spine, Impacted material can press against nerves controlling the hind limbs, tail and cloaca, causing 'paresis' in the hind limbs, tail and even problems with expelling wastes.

The best treatment is to fridge like what you have been doing and if you want to take a step further, i suggest you take the axie to a vet for imaging (radiography/ ultrasonography) to detect presence of any impaction or even tumour/abscess growing internally. In the event of internal growths, prognosis will be guarded and euthanasia is an option.
 
Thank you so much for the info! I'm always glad to learn a few new things about these fascinating creatures. I guess I'll keep fridging and doing water changes, hopefully not all is lost, but i fear this may be one of these freak things that happen to these cute lil' guys.
 
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