Borat n Mango

Cute video~~ :D

I must ask though, how long before your stand is complete? I wouldn't wait if I was you to remove the gravel. It should come out *ASAP* as if your axies ingest it, it can cause serious problems.
 
lol, soon mate....

now finishing the gloss layer... takes a while to dry completely

reason i'm not mucking around now with the gravel is because it's now standing on an "IKEA" shoe rack, fearing it might over weigh n fell over.
made alot of calculation on how heavy my tank will be. 96 liter of water equivalent to 97kg, plus sand, ornament etc. should weigh around 120kg.

i'm living in a town house, so all work(nailing) must stop around 9pm, otherwise i'll receive complaints, AGAIN =)

i reckon by tomorrow, all will b setup n ready to run.
 
'Mucking around' now with the gravel might save your axolotls health problems... Keep the floor bare in the mean time if you are worried about weight.
 
holy ****!!!! removed gravel, replaced with sand(from Bunnings, white sand) n now my whole tank is super cloudy.... i washed my sand like a thousand times till its clear (when i stir it in a pale, it will clear back in a sec)

i wonder how long will it take to clear?? -.-"
 
i spend the whole day reading other threads n most of them say "sand will clear in a few days"

the problem is now Borat n Mango (axolotls) are in a pale, i wonder will they be fine in the "few days"

anyone can give me an exact day they waited for the water to clear out?
 
I don't know if you can get it there, but that is why I use Estes' Marine Sand (doesn't alter chemistry at all). It is clean and ready to pour straight into the tank. And it costs about as much as gravel to do your tank with, so it is still cheap.
 
lol, that will help alot if i haven't get the sand.

only concern is that will my axie survive in a bucket of water(previous water) ???
and roughly how long will it take for my water to clear, or should i go n get a water clear solution?
 
It sounds like the sand was not cleaned properly beforehand I think. I just use white hardware sand from Bunnings too, wash it in a bucket and put it in the tank. Never had cloudy water issues, only issue it raises the PH by a little bit. It took me, a friend and my partner with three buckets about 40mins to do a small amount of sand... how long did you spend washing it? I have found you need to clean it a fair bit longer after the water has gone clear in the buckets to get it properly clean.

How are your axolotls in a pale? Do they have signs of stress? What are your water parameters? Also, if they are poorly it could be because they might be passing gravel from your previous substrate or your other conditions not being right...

What is water clear solution? I would avoid using any chemical stuff in my tank as it can cause other problems. I tried googling it but all I could really find where ammonia based water clear solutions, which you should definitely avoid.
 
i swear it was clean... clean it like an hour, rinse over n over n over again till whenever i stir it in a pale, the water turns clear instantly, then it was left for 2 days(busy fixing my stand)
today when i clear all my gravel, fill up the tank then when after the 1st bucket of sand went it, it started getting cloudy n cloudier :confused:

my axies are doing fine, i guess... they still have their appetite, ate 1 of the feeder fish...

apparently in any aquarium shop, when i ask told them that my water are cloudy, they will recommend a solution
(http://www.pet-dog-cat-supply-store...a&ps_session=eea23d26f0fb8067e8189ac42e629f8c)
something similar to that or they will just say, wait a few more days n see how it goes.

if i were to wait a few days, i wonder will my axies be able to make it through??? ;)
 
Are your axolotls showing any signs of stress? If they are eating that is a good sign. If they are acting ok and eating then there is probably not much to worry about. What are your water parameters too? Do you have a reading before you put the sand in? If so can you post both to see if anything has changed in your water from adding the sand. I know sand tends to increase my PH when I put some in.

Also, how cloudy is your water and is it getting less cloudy? It could be the type of sand... but if you have washed it enough it should be clear enough. My tank goes cloudy after I clean it and settles after a few hours. Cloudiness can also be due to your tank cycling. Has your tank been cycled prior to putting your axolotls in? However, it is probably not that though as you say the cloudiness came soon after you put the sand in.

Anyway, keep running your filter as that will help too. But I think there isn't really a reason for your sand to cause the water to go cloudy if you have washed it enough... I use similar hardware sand from the same shop and know many people who use sand in their aquariums with no hassles... but can't remember how many types of sand there are at Bunnings so might be wrong on that. Take it out and wash it some more and see how you go. Also do 20% water changes each day until it is clear. But yea, it should settle over a few days. If you are worried about your axolotls in the mean time, take them out and put them into a container with fresh dechlorinated water and do 100% water changes until you are happy with the state of your tank. Anyway, sand is much better than gravel so it is good you have changed.

In regards to the water clear solution, I am not really familiar with that and was unable to find a list of ingredients for that product you posted on the internet or a reference to it here... usually I am doubtful about products like that as often they aren't very useful (like Cycle and stuff like that) and pet shops recommend them to make money. However as I don't know the one you mention I will withhold judgement. ;) Maybe you could take some of the cloudy water and test the Accu Clear on it first? See if it works... and maybe test that water to make sure it hasn't got anything weird in it that will alter PH/ammonia, etc.
 
sand

It can take a while sometimes for the water to clear, I had the same thing with the sand i used. Washed it over and over again but still clouded up the tank when i put it in. I think it took just over a week before it totally cleared, but i did carry out water changes every other day to help and if you add a fine polyester filter pad to your filter that will help clear out the fine particles too.
 
here, some pictures of the cloudness

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so what do u think? will it clear sooner or later??
 
It will clear. I suggest turning on the filter. The small particles of dust that are suspended aren't usually enough to clog the filter. I would, however, rinse the filter daily in tank water to get rid of the gunk, until the water clears.

The biggest issue with sand is that you rinse and rinse and rinse for hours, and it STILL does this. But it's worth it in the end.
 
Your axolotl will be fine in the bucket as long as you do regular water changes with dechlorionated water, the other thing to watch is their water temp. They should be fine in there for a while.
 
yeah, this morning i realize my filter have more sand in it. so i rinse my sponge in the tank itself or with tap water???

dechlorinated water means i add salt(conditioner salt) n tap water conditioner (removes chlorine) to it before transferring them over?

sorry for the noobnest
 
Use tank water to wash your filter. That way you won't lose any bacteria (filters are full of bacteria to help your tank cycle). I put a bit of water in a bucket and rinse the sponge that way.

As far as dechlorinating the water goes, generally you add water dechlorinater to the tank water before you put your axies in. Leave it sit for a bit. I don't know what products you have but it should say on the packet/bottle what it does to your water. I just use something that is blue and powdery in a generic packet that says 'water conditioner' so I am not sure what salt you mean sorry. All water needs to be dechlorinated first as most places have chlorine added to the water (if you are in Melb for sure).
 
they guy at the pet shop recommend me to get a pack of salt(blue color) n a bottle of tap water conditioner. on the bottle it says removes chlorine and chloramine, neutralizes heavy metals, coats to protect & heal. product of Aqua Plus.

i was wondering in future with the sand, will the sand always get it? so i'm guessing my filter isn't suppose to touch the surface of the sand to avoid it getting in?
 
Your filter should be a couple inches above the substrate.

The salt is probably worthless, but you'll need a water conditioner that removes chlorine and chloramines to treat your tap water (unless you're not using chlorinated water, such as rain water or well water). Usually, it's best to avoid products that 'neutralize ammonia' (this interferes with cycling) and 'protect slime coats' (this just adds bioload).
 
good news.... my water start to clear abit....

i wonder if can i put my axies in now or i have to wait till it all clears up??
from the top view, i still can't see the bottom of the tank yet but from the front view, i can see 1/3 of the tank....
 
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