Cynops cyanurus

[Asso]

When searching the forum, I can't find much information regarding this species, the care sheet only contains images(?). So, could anyone help me out?

Is this species fully aquatic or is it semi-aquatic?
What size are they?
In what temperature range should they be kept? I've read in some threads that they are hardier than other and tolerate higher temperatures? What's the ideal temperature?
According to the information I've read in other threads they eat the same foods as other cynops?
How does the ultimate set up look like for this species?
What is a good tank size for a couple of cyanurus?

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[SludgeMunkey]

The genus Cynops all have very similar husbandry requirements. You are correct in your thinking on this. I suggest you have a go at the detailed care sheets for the other species as you will see just how similar they are.

As for tank size, it depends on the adult size of the caudates. For large caudates like an axolotl, a 37 liter (about 10 US Gallons) tank is about the smallest I would suggest, however, with smaller animals like C. cyranus a tank of this volume could feasibly hold four adults comfortably.

Make sure the tank you chose has a proper cover on it. Cynops are very good glass climbers when they want to be.

 

[Lusiwarrior]

Hi Asso,
Greetings Vikings! lol I also am a big fan of this kind of newts!
As said SludgeMunkey and well, the requirements of this kind are exactly the same as those of other species of the genus Cynops.
But here are the answers to your questions:
* This species is fully aquatic, that when the animals are adults, of course!
* The females can reach 10cm while the male stands at 8cm.
* You can keep them at the same temperature that the other Cynops, however the species of breeding should be increased to around 24 º c.
* The food base of all newts must pass through earthworms and may add one or another type of food to your diet.
* Just prepare a setup like you would for C.orientalis.
* I have a pair in a setup with these measures: 40x20x26
I have helped!
By the way, if you know someone who has females, if you do not mind, can you said me?
cheers

 

[Asso]

Thanks for the answers guys!
This species seem quite interesting, and if they can be kept in the same way as other cynops I already maintain a suitable room temperature etc as Im having a c.pyrrhogaster.
I have a spare 54 liter aqarium (60*30*30) so maybe that could house a couple of c.cyanurus.
I use a net lid for my pyrrhogaster, and plan to do so for my possible future newts to.

At the moment the breeder had c.cyanurus and c.orientalis for sale, but later on they seem to have more species availabe. Im also interested in c.ensicauda.

Are there any cynops species that are more difficult to keep or is they more or less the same?

 

[Azhael]

They are all easy to keep, but i would consider Cynops orientalis the harder one to raise from metamorphosis.

 

[Lusiwarrior]

In a tank with these measures can keep quite a trio or up to two couples!
I just keep C.orientalis and C.cyanurus, how many other species do not know, but between these two there are almost no differences, unless at the time of feeding the C.cyanurus sometimes become a little aggressive!
cheers

 

[merk199]

Orientalis are harder to raise from eggs to adults IMO because they go terrestrial. Cyranus can go from egg all the way to adulthood without leaving the water. My success rate on raising orientalis from egg to terrestrial juvy was 100% (7 for 7). My success rate on cyranus from egg to early juvy was 50% (15 out of 30. Of the 15 lost 13 were lost within the first 14 days of hatching).

My group of cyranus are easily three times the size of my orientalis. Both groups are roughly 10 months old. I am sure this is because my cyranus are eating a diet of black worms, chopped earth worms, and blood worms when. My orientalis will only eat melano FF, springs, and I am working with them to try blackworms like they did as newly hatched.

I wouldn't push the temps with the cyranus like you can with ensicauda. In the summer I keep the temp 73 and lower.

Honestly If I was to get cyranus again I would either raise them from eggs to ensure they didn't go terrestrial, or I would get them from another breeder who has them aquatic already.

Of all the cynops I find cyranus to be the easiest to keep, and I keep pyrrogaster, orientalis, and ensicauda popei. But all the others are in a terrestrial phase. Out of all my caudates and I have quite a few different species I would rate the cyranus as a good beginner species. But maybe I have just been lucky.

The only time I observe aggression is during a feeding frenzy. Aggression towards each other might be too strong of a term. To minimize the frenzy I create 3-4 drop zones of the food items so I don't have a big pig pile to get the food.

At 10 months I still have all 15 in a 10 gallon tank, and it is just beginning to get crowded because they are growing larger. I either need to sell off 7-8 of the cyranus or I will need to creat another 10 gallon tank for half the group.

I have a mixed lot of light cyranus and dark cyranus. Not sure if I will sell/seperate based on color. My intutition is to seperate based on the minor size differences. The person I got the eggs from does not seperate based on color variation and they are far wiser than I am.

Any other questions ask away!

 

[Jennewt]

I have a mixed lot of light cyranus and dark cyranus. Not sure if I will sell/seperate based on color. My intutition is to seperate based on the minor size differences. The person I got the eggs from does not seperate based on color variation and they are far wiser than I am.

If you get rid of some of them, I urge you NOT to separate them based on size, unless you can reliably sex them. The larger ones are more likely to be female. I try very hard not to separate any group of animals based on any criteria, as there is always the risk of ending up with a skewed sex ratio.

 

[merk199]

Thanks that never entered my mind based on size.