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Different types of worms

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frank

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Hi,
I have a worm farm that I use to compost all my household green waste, it has tiger worms in it (Eisenia Foetida), but it also has smaller white coloured worms that I think are
Entrachyadids, my axolotls are still too little to take the tiger worms yet, (the biggest is only 4cm!) will the entrachyadids be okay?
 
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jennifer

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The white worms should be OK for the axolotls. But a diet of mainly white worms may not be the best nutrition. Vary them with other foods. It may help to culture (or gutload) the whiteworms separately, feeding them fish food or axolotl pellets before you use them.
 
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wm.

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I would like to raise worms for food to my newts. I would rather not like to compost. I want a worm that everybody will eat. I now use Canadian Night Crawlers. They are large so I have to cut them up. Either young CNC or another smaller worm would be better. Any suggestions?
 
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jameswei

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a question i wouldlike to ask, is it possible to be allergic to earthworms? i swore that as i was holding the europenan nightcrawler my throat and lungs started to give way... maybe i was imagining things... or maybe it was something else... but has anyone heard of such an allergen..
 
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jennifer

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Gordon, you might want to try an experiment with CNC (Lumbricus terrestris) and see if you can get them to reproduce. I've heard that they need different growing conditions than the compost worms, but I've never tried to grow them. The main thing though is that they need to be cool... they don't like to get over 70F. And I suspect that they reproduce very slowly.

James, I have heard of people being allergic to blackworms or to bloodworms (two separate allergies). So it's entirely possible that you could be allergic to earthworms (which are very closely related to blackworms).
 
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worried

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My axolotls have been loving the white worms I've been feeding them, and are now of a size where they seem to be big enough to eat baby tiger worms from the worm far, so I gave some to them last night, one gobbled his/her one down in an instant, the others seemed not to like them, and spat them out. Then a couple of hours later the one who had eaten the worm started vomitting! Any ideas why? The worms seemed to have dirt in their tummies, as worms do, would that have made the axie sick? But if that is so, I don't understand how they could eat earth worms at all....
 
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macbean

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It is unlikely you have had an allergic reaction to earthworms from the details you have given. The most common indication of an allergic reaction to a substance/animal is for a rash to develop around the skin that came into contact with it.
However it may just be your developing hayfever
 
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kelly

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Your axolotl could be being sick because of the yellow-green excretions of the tiger worms (Eisenia Foetida) as posted in Culturing Earthworms thread in this forum (sorry I haven't worked out how to post a link to that thread, maybe someone else can help?). I don't really know anything about worms but I thought I'd point out the link between your axie problem and the other thread. Hope it helps.
 
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    Hey, my yellow spotted salamander has gotten a bit fat, he doesnt wanna move too much, and I notice he lays with his back legs flat out in front of him, but keeps his chest off the ground with his front legs. He CAN use his back legs to move around, but Im a little concerned about his back legs being flat out like that, and Im wondering snce he doesnt do a whole lot, will he lose function of his back legs? Kinda like a human would if they never used them? Also what is a slamander poop suppsoed to look like? I was told to spot clean poops and pees but after 4 months of feeding him and having him I havent ever seen a single thing I can identify s a poop...
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  • FragileCorpse:
    ...other than these little oblong shaped bits of dirt thats compacted together, I figure those must be poops because how else is the dirt getting compacted into an oblong shape like that? And he tends to roll those to his front entryway of his rock cave for me to move them away from the entrance. Are those poops? Mine will ONLY eat sal bugs. otherwise known as potato bugs, roly polys, etc. Hes never struck at anything else ive given him. Are the roly polys even enough nutrients for him? Ive captured like 400 of them for the winter months.
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  • FragileCorpse:
    When i lay a roly poly a bit far away from him, he WILLuse his back legs to come out, so he IS using them sometimes, its just concerning to see him with his legs flat out like that. Is that just normal for them?
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  • FragileCorpse:
    *also actually unsure of his sex, if the sex of the salamander means anything in this instance, I as told females are bigger and fatter, so I assume it might be a female tbh.
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  • FragileCorpse:
    Please let me know if amyone knows amything, as I can not get adequate info anywhere else.
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  • SamAxolotl:
    @FragileCorpse, the chat room is a good way to get some basic answers. if you're looking for more detailed answers, go to caudata.org home page and then scroll down to newt and salamander help. I think you might be able to get some more answers from there from people with experience with newts/ salamanders specifically. you could probably also contact a breeder and see if they have advice for you. Some vets also have info on exotic animals as well. local wildlife centers/ rehab facilities/ rescues may also be a good resource to look into. hope your little guy feels better soon!
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  • FragileCorpse:
    I cant contact the vet or facilities because they keep trying to take my salamander and fine me cuz i dont have a permit. however i foudn him outside dying and nursed him back to health. So I need to be discreet about getting info. However, if anything actually becomes wrong with him, in order to save him I will have to surrender him to a vet. But thanks for the info I appreciate that
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  • FragileCorpse:
    We are about to be slammed by a category 4 hurricane. I need you guys to tell me how to saf ely transport my salamander. What kind of mobile go-terrarium can I make for him??? Can it be a plastic tote full of eco earth (cocount husk) and maybe his hidey rock and I can keep a spray bottle to keep him moist??? wtf do I do???? I have a bunch of his bugs in plastic containers thankfully so I can bring them with us. But he hates vibrations, trying to bring him out in a car or something is gonna be scary. Can these guys die of fright like a guinea pig can kind of deal???
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  • FragileCorpse:
    Maybe I should just go literally buy a smaller more mobile terrarium? Hes in a giant glass beast right now.
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  • FragileCorpse:
    Man I wish I had more than one day to plan!!! My house wont even survive this!
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  • SamAxolotl:
    @FragileCorpse, I think a plastic tub would be fine along with a spray bottle to keep it humid (I've seen a lot of people keep reptiles etc in plastic tubs their whole lives happily) Not sure about the fear/ shock aspect, but maybe bring a towel or blanket to put over the tote (if it's a clear tote, that is) as well to keep it dark for him so he doesn't get spooked by so much movement that will be going on. I've used that for other animals and it seems to be effective for keeping them calm. See if you can get your hands on some earthworms for food. they're nutritionally dense and it looks like that's one of the main things your salamander would be fed in captivity. Crickets were another suggestion for food as well. praying you all stay safe!
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    SamAxolotl: @FragileCorpse, I think a plastic tub would be fine along with a spray bottle to keep it humid... +1
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