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Do lotls "need" air??

Brainiac and Lex

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Hi everyone, I recently noticed a strange habit that Lex has really done a lot before but recently its more deliberate and seemingly pointless...
he`s healthy and all and his water has the right cycled levels but over the last few months he`s been intentionally and spontaneously swimming to the surface and taking a bite of air...???

Before I just assumed he's just a nut who swam up too high lol and was either surprised/ testing his limits and maybe the odd time trying to escape when his levels weren`t right which wasn't for long. A couple times recently though, he was just chilling on the floor, then fairly quickly and yet very leisurely swam up and bit the surface, face dead set on it and apparently for no reason XD he does a lot of funny things but idk if he actually needs air or something?

Just very curious now cuz when I think of it he often bites his bubbler tho I usually try to keep it out of his way/ I try to distract him if he starts. Is Lex just a weirdo or what is happening??
 

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Salamanders develop lungs around the time they develop rear legs, while still fully gilled. So they're quite capable of supplementing their oxygen intake by taking a gulp at the surface. Axolotls retain their rudimentary lungs all of their lives, despite remaining gilled.

Salamander larvae will sometimes gulp air prior to developing lungs. This may be an attempt to exchange gas through the mouth or throat - even lungless salamanders can do that, or they may actually be swallowing the air.
 

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Ok with all that has been said.
I'll add : the amount of air in their lungs can help them to equilibrate themselves in the water
(less air, they sink, more air, they float)
 

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What kind of filter do you have? I do agree with above comments that it's a pretty normal axolotl trait, but I have one who really only ever did that when I was having problems with my filter, so the water wasn't as oxygenated as he would have liked, so he was going up to the surface to supplement his oxygen. Once I got it fixed, he immediately stopped doing it. Just something to look into :)
 

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hmmm thanks a lot for the comments guys, useful and cool stuff to know! I know Lex sometimes floated after gulping too much air, though he hasn`t been floating for at least a couple months now, maybe hes just heavier I dont know. (he rarely "wiggles" mid water range anymore, not sure why...he used to do it every night maybe he just changed his schedule haha)

AMurray, I have a larger cylindrical sponge filter, coarse with those 'divets', you probably know what I mean. Made for 30 gallons+, which is my tank size. I replaced it recentish but maybe I could change or fully clean it soon, thanks for the suggestion!
 
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    Just got to cycle the water. keep the water nice betas are pretty easy since they are very hardy, and they tend to glow once you give them the right attention. ive had a few. they are my go to fish to be honest.
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    Hi I'm a bit worried about our axolotl Berry she's approx 4 months old . She had a big meal yesterday of blood worm and today is very restless she's been swimming around all day and trying to get to the top sometimes not making it. Her tummy does seem really full even though she has had 2 poops . There's no gravel in her tank she's on sand . My water seems fine
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    Hey y’all! So I just had a quick question. I had a well established cycled tank. I added in a sand substrate that I had previously had in the tank (when it cycled the first time). It recycled and everything was golden. As I was re-adding it I noticed a smell to it but figured it was just “fish” smell. I also have a cat. Long story short, I think the cat managed to find the sand, pee in it, and because I was already suspicious I tested my tank just in case a few hours later to find my ammonia 2.0! I pulled my axolotl out and have done a 75% change. Prior to sand earlier today ammonia was 0. So do I add the ammonia blocker or stick to water changes?
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    The tank should be cycled but I believe the sand added too much ammonia that normally wouldn’t be an issue. So I’m thinking ammonia block for the next few days, but then won’t the ammonia just sit there since it can’t be processed? The safer bet is always going to be water changes I know,
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    i have no words, honestly. this is like the time i accidentally dropped a worm in the sink and it was never heard from again, just a big “whoops” that i don’t know how to fix— my best advice//what i’d personally do is remove the sand entirely, remove all water, keep the filter media, and just recycle while your axie is tubbed. the sheer amount of ammonia in car urine is insane, and i’m impressed your axolotl survived
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    It was within the span of maybe two hours at most lol. I’ll do that and I have a second tank with lotls in it that has just enough room to temporarily keep them in it. I read up on it and decided to dose with ammo lock since it’s not a cycling tank and was cycled already along with water changes.
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