Does anyone keep these?

NewtMafia

New member
Joined
Jul 13, 2012
Messages
8
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
Hollywood,Florida,United States
Country
United States
I'm just asking,but does anyone keep these salamanders?I ask because there's only one other thread on this subforum?Surely there must SOME people who keep these.If you do,please share your knowledge with the rest of the community.
 

FrogEyes

Active member
Joined
Sep 5, 2010
Messages
908
Reaction score
37
Points
28
Location
Southern Minnesota
Country
Canada
I expect the numbers of places these are kept is very low. I kept some years ago, but they are currently protected by WA and OR, and last I looked CA had a limit [as for most species]. They're not good candidates in captivity. They're cryophilic, normally living in water which is 8-12C, and at 17C they start to suffer. They can handle higher temperatures only for short times, and only if acclimated. In short, they MUST be chilled. They also need the water to be clean and well oxygenated. They normally live under rocks at the edges of waterfalls and in or beside he shallow parts of mountain creeks. Many of the adult-sized animals encountered still have tiny gills - which is all they ever have or need to get oxygen in that environment.

The combination of low heat tolerance, need for clean, flowing, oxygenated water, and legal protection makes them unlikely captive candidates. That said, I have a terrarium project set aside, in hope I'll get around to actually completing it and obtaining permits. It's hard enough working with tailed frogs, and torrents are more demanding.
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • Mark.H:
    Great! I'll use some of those too. Thanks for the help. :)
    +1
    Unlike
  • Tinky:
    So everywhere talks about testing your water parameters but I can't find what to do it there aren't right?! Like too low not too high, anybody any ideas?
    +1
    Unlike
  • jnerdx:
    It’s very dry in Colorado. I make sure to spritz every night so while I’m sleeping. I have a nifty hydrometer that I got from Walmart. It tells me blue, green, red; too little humid, good, too much respectively. It’s been helpful to me.
    +1
    Unlike
  • jnerdx:
    It tells me temperature AND humidity.
    +1
    Unlike
  • MVM1991:
    Where'd you get that? Or is it just a combo from petsmart or something?
    +1
    Unlike
  • jnerdx:
    I’m pretty sure I got it at a Walmart.
    +1
    Unlike
  • jnerdx:
    I just looked it up to see if I can find it again. It’s actually a hyGROmeter and temperature. Which measures the dew point. Here is the difference between due point and humidity. https://www.weather.gov/arx/why_dewpoint_vs_humidityYou can calculate Th relative
    +1
    Unlike
  • jnerdx:
    the relative humidity using the dew point measurement.
    +1
    Unlike
  • jnerdx:
    Here is the product I purchased:
    +1
    Unlike
  • Unlike
  • jnerdx:
    +1
    Unlike
  • jnerdx:
    it has a stand. And I had a spare suction from my filter. So it’s on the wall of my Sal’s enclosure.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Unlike
  • jnerdx:
    That’s a pic of it in the enclosure.
    +1
    Unlike
  • MVM1991:
    Nice! Also, from what I can see you have an amazing setup! What species?
    +1
    Unlike
  • jnerdx:
    S. S. Gigliolli
    +1
    Unlike
  • MVM1991:
    Ooo nice!
    +1
    Unlike
  • jnerdx:
    Thank you! I tried to share the video but unsuccessful. You can see it on my IG story @jnerdx
    +1
    Unlike
  • MVM1991:
    Cool! I just have a tiger and a long tail, who we are trying to find as he ESCAPED INTO MY ROOM!
    +2
    Unlike
  • LauraLobster:
    Hey y'all, recently my juvenile axolotl's tail has been floating and can swim down but his tail lifts to an angle and I believe that it is stressing him out. He gets in between his plants to balance himself and I am cleaning out the bottom of the tank with my baster. I believe I overfed him and he also may have eaten many air bubbles. He's been like this for nearly 1 1/2 days.
    +1
    Unlike
  • LauraLobster:
    What would be the best thing to do ?
    +1
    Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    Redear has joined the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Mark.H:
    Hey, does anyone know if hot glue is fine to glue rocks together?
    +1
    Unlike
  • MVM1991:
    Should be. Hot glue is good when dry I believe, just don't let it get too hot and you should be good. Most super glues are good as well just watch out for flume warnings
    +2
    Unlike
  • Mark.H:
    Ok, thanks! I am going to glue together the shale I mentioned.
    +1
    Unlike
    Mark.H: Ok, thanks! I am going to glue together the shale I mentioned. +1
    Top