First vivarium. Help me chose species!

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Hello all,

After just finishing my first vivarium I am looking into what amphibian species to keep in the tank. I was thinking salamanders or newts.
What do you guys think would thrive in this type of environment? I was thinking maybe marble salamander, as I could probably catch them myself here in NJ. Fire salamanders seem like a neat choice also.

There is an egg-crate false bottom under the substrate, so there's about 6 gallons of water in the tank, and at it's deepest is about 2.5 inches in depth. Is that enough water for any newt species?

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Thanks for any help, it is greatly appreciated.
 

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Another thought, crested newts? I am in contact with a guy selling a variety of crested newts at the Hamburg show at the end of the month.
 

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You could probably put any salamander in there as they are not fully aquatic and like to stay on land. The water would be good for them to bathe in if they ever need to, but the water is not big enough to how any aquatic species of newt. You could get newt efts and eventualy turn the vicarious into. Half water half land. I would suggest Ambystoma tigniruim , Ambystoma Opacum, Ambystoma Maculatum, or any species of salamander (mainy the Ambystomas). Also I would add more burrows to the land part and you could actualy get some dart frogs instead of salamanders. Fire Salamanders would be pretty hard to find in the US, but would be great for this enclosure.
 

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If you haven't chosen yet, or for anyone else reading this thread, from what I have read, ambystoma maculatum need fairly cool temperatures to thrive. The plants you have in there look like bromeliads and other warm temperature species except maybe the ferns. just be prepared to keep the tank at 50-70 degrees Fahrenheit and definitely no higher than 75 according to ReptilesMagazine.com.

Hope that helps!
 

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I would think about either expanding the water area or considering something other than a newt or salamander to stock your viv with.
 

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I'm more concerned about the temperature more than anything else if you are going to house caudates in there.Most, if not all, caudates require cool temperature below 75 degrees, optimally in the 60s range. Will your plant choices thrive in such temperatures?

Regarding the water volume, definitely not enough water space for any aquatic newts.
 

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Great job! Just want to ask if you have posted your construction details anywhere? I am about to build another tank and I'd be pretty pleased if it looked as good as yours.

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It looks like it's ideal for smaller toad species. If you put an ambystoma sp in there it wil put a lot of the dirt in the water. That would be a lot of work for you to clean the setup.
 
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    if the tank isn’t set up, that’s okay. I would recommend today going and getting an air stone to put in the tub that hes currently in. Creating more aeration in the water can increase pH. You can also add 1 teaspoon of baking soda very slowly for 5 gallons of water to help. I don’t know much about the baking soda thing and I’m not sure how completely safe it is. This might help explain it a little better How to adjust the pH in your aquarium
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    The tank is still running, I am cycling it (for 2 weeks) with guppys
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    Probably too soon, I read it take 6-8 weeks to cycle
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    How can I upload a pic?
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    hey! Don’t blame it on yourself. It happens. Is this your first axie? I’m a newer owner as well if so (I’ve had mine since Oct). I know how scary it can be
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    if you have the API water test kit, check all the perimeters in the tank. We can check the cycling process with the perimeters. And I’m actually not sure how to upload a pic lololol I thought it would be easier but I tried it myself and now I’m confused! It says to attack a link, I’m not sure how that works
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    Dont beat yourself up over this, your little guy will be ok 😊
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    I will do that for sure this afternoon! I really hope he pulls through :( He's so freakin cute
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    Thanks for your help :)
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    You’re so welcome! Keep a close eye on him and try to offer food a couple times a day. Maybe try some pellets too for a different smell, might get him interested. Keep me updated!
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    @Paige1warren, turns out my pH was spot on, the test strips I had used were no good. I bought an API kit and the levels are all fine. So not the issue :( I just posted in the forum
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    Hey @Josiane ! I just responded to your post. Your little guy actually looks fairly decent for his size despite not eating well. I think it is stress from the environment
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    Also I forgot to add to my response on ur thread, keep trying to feed him bloodworms and see if he will start to take them. If you get a turkey vaster you can suck up dethawed bloodworms and dangle them right infront of his nose, might get his interest.
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    I rotate between blood worms and brine shrimp. He's in my bedroom and will stay there for a while, I closed the light and just left a salt lamp on. I will bring him a hiding place right away! Isn't he the cutest thing! 😂
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    Thanks for the reassurance!!
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    @Josiane An axolotl of your's size should be on a diet of chopped earthworms or live blackworms (if they're under 3"). Bloodworms and brine shrimp are not a sufficient diet.
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    @Josiane Based on the photo, I believe there is a chance your axolotl may have become impacted from ingesting sand. Axolotls under 5" should not be kept on substrate for this reason.
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    @Josiane The nearly diminished gill stalks are also indicative of poor water quality. You need to test your tap water's parameters using a liquid test kit (not strips! Those are inaccurate). The slime coat coming off may also be due to water quality or the water conditioner.
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