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Happy new Axolotl owner, Spain

Thanatostasis

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>>Hello w orld!<<

I've very recently bought three leucistic Axolotl from a pet store (I thought i'd take all of them, fortunately) in a mall, and i'm glad I did, after extensive reading (for the last 2 days) and figuring everything out from zero, I have realized that I did my cuties a big favor of removing them from the pet store, and conditions for them are going to get even better as soon as a few shipments arrive!

Now don't hate on me for putting them in an uncycled tank, I had no idea in the first place, and no time to cycle it either because the pet store owner persuaded me in to taking them with me straight away, without giving me time to set up the fishtank (14.5 gallons // 55 litres) luckily i've managed to take it home without breaking it.

Next day I came back for another 55 litre one the next day (But that one had an awful chip on two sides of the glass on the lower corner, and I might not be able to return it, so I'm thinking about keeping that one for dart frogs one day, correct me if i'm wrong about putting dart frogs in an aquarium instead of a terrarium, or if the glass poses any hazard of breaking)
The money I spent at the petstore is as follows (Might somebody tell me if I got ripped off?)

40€ per Axolotl, total 120€
160€ for the 55l Aquatlantis Horizon bow front fish tank
150€ for the Emheim 55l Aquastar that I chipped.
22€ Vacuum syphon

So that's 280€ spent on just the fishtank and axies, filter and leds are included, I was given a satchel of water conditioner too for one use. I bought a bottle of it for 8€ the next day, but it seems expensive and I am ordering Kordon Amquel and Novaqua plus online as i've read the recommendation on a scientific website about Axolotl.

I'm waiting for a shipment to arrive with a 63 litre (That's a 16.6 gallon) aquarium, that I am going to aquascape following the video seminars of Takashi Amano I found on youtube.

I ordered the following plantlife and supplies from local stores:

Plants:
1 x Taxiphyllum Sp. (Peacock moss) (003P) = €4.95
1 x Nymphea Lotus Tiger Red (019A) = €3.95
1 x Lemna Minor (0129) = €2.95
1 x Lilaeopsis Brasiliensis (040) = €2.95
1 x Marsilea Hirsuta (010) = €2.95
1 x Vesicularia Dubyana en Tronco Pequeño (003YWG) = €7.95
1 x Microsorum Pteropus Windelow (008W) = €5.95
1 x Anubias Barteri var. Nana (0101) = €3.05
1 x Hemianthus Callitrichoides "Cuba" (048B) = €4.95
Subtotal: €39.65
Halcourrier 24 H. (Solo PENINSULA) (1.60Kg.) (Halcourrier 24H. con entrega a
lo largo del dia.): €9.95
Total: €49.60
AQUAPLANTAS.COM

Plants as well as substrate and shrimp:

Caridina Multidentata (Japonica) AMANO 3 €2.95 €8.85
Neocaridina Heteropoda "Red Cherry" 5 €1.80 €9.00
Cladophora aegagrophila 4 €2.55 €10.20
Riccardia chamedryfolia/mini coral moss 4x4 cm 1 €11.95 €11.95
ADA AQUASOIL NEW AMAZONIA (9Lts) 1 €39.00 €39.00
Weeping, Musgo (bote) 1 €9.75 €9.75
Roca Seiryu Stone - Ryuoh Stone 2 €5.45 €10.90 (2KG)
Total productos IVA incluido: €99.65
Total gastos de envío IVA incluido: €16.94
Total: €116.59
BICHORIUM.ES

Kit acuario Marina Premium 63 Litros €94.00 1 €94.00 (16.6 gallon Fishtank)
Tronco madera 80 Paisajismo €17.63 1 €17.63 (Piece of driftwood)
Productos €111.63
Descuentos €0.00
Envíos €19.97
TOTAL €131.60
BICHORIUM.ES

Any considerations on the plantlife and substrate? All of it is freshwater suited, most are low light and low temp, i'm planning on keeping ramshorns and applesnails too, as well as making a separate fishtank for breeding artemia as live food (So far the axies diets are bloodworms)

The aquarium is cycling and I change 1/4th daily, sometimes twice a day, I have measurement strips for the water but they lack ammonia test, will order ammonia and chlorine/chloramine strips soon, no nitratres or nitrites being read, I fear the bacteria haven't yet appeared, so I change water frequently and check up on their status, so far they don't appear stressed at all, i've cured them a piece of driftwood I had lying around by boiling it for two hours, i've put pieces of gravel from a cycled aquarium in to the filter, as it had a little pocket there where I conveniently managed to fit it in so the axies don't eat it.

I hope the aquascaped aquarium will cycle much quicker, if the substrate is too gravelly, will carpeting plants do the work? I've ordered quite a few types of carpeting plants, some of which i've seen growing quite long in some photos, will they do the trick of keeping the gravel safe from my axies mouths?

I also need to clear a question that's been on my mind, what determines stress? I've read many posts and people used stress interchangedly, sometimes refering to the emotional state of the animal, other times refering to the stress of internal organs adapting to the water chemistry, are both valid definitions of stress?

By the way, i'm extremely worried because we've got these stupid bank holidays and all stores are closed, will they hold out long enough if there are ammonia spikes? How long can they be in such water before I mange to get everything in order?

Any products I should order? Are live worms a good idea for them to eat? Should I rear the shrimp (surprisingly they are extremely expensive) before placing them in the aquarium and risking to have them eaten?

Thank you for reading and answering to some of my questions, I hope i'm not doing anything wrong, and sorry for making the post so long, I hope to get to know people here soon.
 

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  • Shane_Yogurt:
    yeah, im heading over tomorrow morning to move him to this house and feed him. Thanks for the help!
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  • Shane_Yogurt:
    So my axolotl tank cycle just crashed and while i was in the middle of a water change my bucket overflowed and spilled water all of the ground in my brand new home. This is going super well 👍
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    ooff
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    good luck recycling the tank!
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    do the classifieds still exist?
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    nevermind! off my game tonight
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  • Shane_Yogurt:
    Im so frustrated right now. My axolotl WONT eat and my tank still isnt looking too good. Some extra stress i needed.
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  • John:
    Sorry to hear that Shane. Did you post about it?
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  • Shane_Yogurt:
    No, I havent. Im not really sure why he wont eat. Hes in a 1 gallon tub and still a juvenile. When i offer food he swims away from it. Does he need some extra time? or is this something I should be worried about.
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  • JulMl:
    Hello everyone! I’m new in this world and i need some advices please! I have 2 axolotl babies and currently the water from the tank is from bottled water ( all parameters are good) but i want to change 50% of the water with city tap water. My question is how to change it? Do i need to get axis out, do the change, add the prime, wait (how much?) until its dechlorinated or i can add the tap water directly into the tank with axis in it, and add the prime conditioner? Thank you!!
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  • Asmold1:
    1. You dont need to take them out of the tank to change the water as long as you pour it in slow as to not rattle them around too much
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    2. add the prime to your tap water, for most conditioners the consensus is 5 minutes of waiting time
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    3.After 5 minutes it should be safe to add
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  • JulMl:
    Thank you so much !!
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  • Asmold1:
    I private messaged you a bit clearer instructions just in case
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    Where can I get blackworms?
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  • John:
    Ebay or Eastern Aquatics
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    Does anyone know someone who can ship axolotls to hawaii? I recently did a water change and my axolotl died and there are no axos for sale right now.
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  • Sylvia88:
    Hello I'm wondering if fridging axolotl is necessary when giving it a salt bath? My fridge is unpredictable it just changes from freezing temperature to melting by itself. And driving me crazy. So I would not be keen to put my axie in these because of the sudden temperature changes it may experience. Can I leave him in a clean dechlorinated water tub in some of the room? Would I then need to refrigerate the salt water ? Or would I just keep it in a same room temperature?! I have everything ready for him to get a salt bath but just wanted to check about this fridging before I do ( waited for approval to join the forum:)
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    FYI I noticed a white fluffy strings on his gills yesterday. And looking through the forum and some pictures it looks like fungus .
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