Lights and ferts

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theresa

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Okey dokey....
After viewing some of the new tank photos with plants (rob, wow ), i have a couple questions. (what's new?lol)
If temp is a concern, how do you keep your light on long enough with out the temp going over 70 degrees?
Secondly, are liquid fertilizers ok?
how much do you use? how often? Does anyone use co2?
i don't even use my fl. light because it would raise my temp too high....
 
Since you live in Washington, You don't need to worry about the temp right now, Theresa. It's pretty cold there right now.

Lights should stay on with live plants about 8 - 12 hours a day.

You don't need any fertalizers. Your axies will supply that on their own ;)

If you need a light timer, they sell them at most pet shops, or you can use an alarm clock, or you can just keep track on the clock. I usually turn mine on in the morning and turn it off towards the afternoon around 4 or 5 pm. I allow about 10 hours of light most of the time.

If you want to use Co2, you will need to get a CO2 reactor. These can be pricey I imagine. I have never used one. Do you keep the heat on at your house? I keep my apartment around 65 degrees. that's a bit cold for this time of year, but I have blankets, and I turn the heat on for a short while and it gets up to 70.

The temp in the tank will always be cooler than the temp in the house.
 
here's the rub...actually the apt is around 68 degrees. When it is that, the temp is actually at 70 .the only thing i can figure is that the filter motor ups the temp 2 degrees.
So, you can see, i have to worry about the temp in the tank.have actually floated a bottle of ice a couple times.
i have very heavily planted fish tanks with co2, so i do know about that stuff.i just didn't know if axies could handle the chemicals, and couldn't figure out how folks in hot climates could have lights on etc. i don't use the light, or the glass top, because that will raise the temps.
 
Hey theresa,

My temp is constantly at 23 degres c and i cant get it any lower so im stuck with that, my light adds about 2 degres so thats not much.

My axies seem to do fien with liquid and tablet fetilizers and the dont mind the CO2 reacter as well.

Ok CO2 reacters are expensive but heres a way to make a home made one that lasts a week-month, im currently using this one and its great.

The Generator

The CO2 generator is simply made from a 2 litre plastic soft-drink bottle. Drill a hole through the lid, force some airline tubing through the hole and seal both sides with silicone sealant. Ensure that this seal is airtight. Alternatively you can drill a hole through a rubber bung (bought from somewhere like Para), force a small-diameter rigid tube (perhaps from an undergravel filter uplift) through, and attach your airline to this. Depending on factors such as the carbonate hardness, number & type of plants, amount of surface agitation, number & size of fish, etc. a 2 litre generator should provide enough CO2 for an aquarium of ( 200 litres. For larger aquariums a larger generator or several generators connected together may be required to produce enough CO2.

The Reactor

The next step is to build a CO2 reactor. The purpose of a reactor is to aid in dissolving the CO2 in the aquarium water. This can be as simple as using an airstone to produce many small bubbles which will dissolve more quickly than a single large bubble.

Another method is to invert a container, place it in your aquarium and allow the CO2 to bubble up and be collected. The CO2 will remain in this container until it diffuses into the water. It probably pays to have a current directed across the opening of the container to constantly bring fresh water in contact with the CO2.

If you have an external canister filter you can feed the CO2 directly into the intake tube. The time it takes the CO2 to exit the filter should ensure it is totally dissolved.

Or alternatively you can mount a wide diameter tube (an old gravel vac is perfect) vertically in the aquarium and feed the outflow of your filter or power head down this tube. Feed the CO2 in from the bottom of the tube and allow it to bubble up against the flow of water thus keeping the bubbles of CO2 suspended while allowing fresh water to constantly mix with and dissolve the CO2. Some fiddling may be necessary to achieve the correct balance between tube diameter and flow rate. If the flow rate is too slow the CO2 will collect at the top of the tube, if the flow is too fast the bubbles will be forced out of the reactor. Additional gravel, foam, bio-media, etc. could also be placed in the tube to impede the upwards flow of the bubbles. A very small vent (such as a needle hole) at the top of the reactor is also advisable to allow any ``extra'' gases such as nitrogen (N2) and oxygen (O2) to escape. The source of these gases can be the original air in the generator which will be displaced by the production of CO2 or if there is a bubble of ``CO2'' in the top of the reactor dissolved gases may come out of solution in an attempt to equalise the concentrations of these gases between the bubble and the water.

There are probably countless variations on these themes. Where possible make reactors out of transparent materials so you can observe the rate at which the CO2 is being produced.

Setting it going

The final step is to prepare the mixture which will produce the CO2. Dissolve 1 cup of sugar (any type of sugar will work) in about 500ml - 1 litre of water and pour into the generator. Dissolve 1/2 - 1tsp. of yeast (bakers yeast is available at any supermarket) in a small amount of warm (NOT HOT) water, add to the generator and top up to the required level with cold water. It is important that you do NOT overfill the generator. Once the yeast is activated and starts to produce CO2 a certain amount of ``froth'' will be produced. Enough head room must be left to ensure that this froth is not forced up the airline and into the aquarium. The addition of 1 tsp. of baking soda will help buffer the mixture and extend its working life. It also reduces the amount of froth produced.

If you use hot water to dissolve the sugar allow the temperature of the mix to reach room temp before connecting the reactor. As this water (and the air above it) cools and contracts it may start a siphon going, dumping aquarium water into the generator, if the production of CO2 has not yet started.

The above quantities are not critical so you can experiment with them if you wish. In general the quantity of yeast controls the rate of CO2 production, and the quantity of sugar controls how long the mix will last. Ideally you want a mixture which will produce CO2 at a steady rate for an extended period of time.

This mix should produce CO2 for at least 10-14 days (often longer). As it takes 12-24 hrs (depending on temperature) for a new mixture to start producing sufficient CO2 it is best to get a new batch started 24hrs before the old batch needs replacing. Alternatively you could have two generators producing CO2, one of which is replaced every week. This latter method probably provides for more stable conditions in your aquarium.
 
Axolotls do better in colder water, i.e 65 degrees is a good temp, but it doesn't have to be in the 60's. Axolotls will do just fine in temps under 74 degrees, many people on this site will also say this
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You will need to worry with the temp gets above 74 degrees, that is when they start to stress and grow fungus.

I wouldn't use a Co2 reactor or any chemicals with axolotls, but maybe someone could better advise you on that. Perhaps you could contact one of the moderators and find out more on that.

I just use the lights that came with my tank. They don't raise the temp much. Possibly a degree more, that's about it.

If you want some plants that are low lighting, here are a few:

Java fern
Japanese moss balls
Java moss
Anarchis

Japanese moss balls are fun, they can be special ordered in pet shops I believe, and can be purchased online. Java moss and fern are found in pretty much any petshop that carries live plants, as well as Anarchis.
 
wow Stipe, you have it down.... I'm impressed. just curious, are you a guy? LOl... i will try this someday when i'm feeling like the engineer of seattle...HAhaha....
seriously, thanks for the info. i think having my light on may raise mine to 72f. isn't that getting kind of high?
 
lol, ttheresa im a guy
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If your curious Stjepan is my real name but my nick is stipe, its croatian, in eng it means steven etc.

No i dont think its getting to high mines about 75f and i cant get it down
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I have 2 CO2 reacters that i've buit one for my axies who have been livign with it for a month or so and one or my fish tank. Its simple. It works better if you have a canister filter as you can connect it straight to it.
 
I have 3 home made co2 reacters in my tropical aquarium they are really simple and easy and cheep , but you do need to make sure that there is enought lights for plants if adding co2 so they can utilise it.
 
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