Live feeding? Guppies?

K

kim

Guest
<font color="aa00aa"><font face="arial,helvetica"></font> Ive had spunky and Jynx for about 2 months now (seems much longer) and they happly eat cow's heart, tubifex (as a treat) bloodworm,</font>} live and frozen and high protien pellets.

I'm goin away for the weekend soon and im sure my parents dont want to sick there hands in the tank. Ive read on quite a few websites that feeder guppies are good as they can live along side them and they aren't gill nibblers!
And spunky and jynx can have the old midnight snack!

So what do everyone think? i want something that can easly live along side them as i dont have much room in my bedroom.

p.s. Any idea how old an axolotl is when is around 4-5inch long?
 
S

sharon

Guest
Um, no clue on how old they are at that size.

I did try baby mollies in one of my axo tanks. 20 + babies lasted about 5 or 6 days, a few disappearing each night, with 7 three or four inch axos in the tank.

The problem with feeder fish or any live foods is the possible transmission of parasites and diseases.

I'm not sure why your parents need to stick their hands in their tanks for the snack feeding anyway or maybe its for the clean up? You could try buying a battery powered gravel vac. I was thinking of getting one to vac up excess food. I'm not sure how well they will work in a bare bottom tank or it will have any effect but they were excellent in my fish tanks.

Um at any rate 2 days is nothing. Your parents could skip the snack the first day, feed the late on the second and you could clean up when you get home. Just a thought.

Sharon
 
K

kim

Guest
Thanks Sharon for the info,

I hand feed them both, and i know that my parents wont want to stick there hands in there for general feeding... (they think im mad getting them as it is lol).

But we do have a tropical tank with some 6week old mollies in and mum is due to have some more!! The tank is getting full so instead of letting the angles eat the next lot maybe my 'otls will.

Has anyone else had any experiance which will help? And can anyone help with there age?
 
S

sharon

Guest
Well, maybe you can help me! How do you hand feed axos' that small? I thought I would have to wait until mine were bigger w/bigger pellets.

And just to clarify. The baby mollies simply lived in the tank amongst some pond plants, I gave them flake food twice a day. I continued to feed my axos their regular pellet/blood worm diet.

Sharon
 
K

katy

Guest
I would hazard a guess at about 4 months old, though it does depend largely on what they've been fed when growing. They could be underdeveloped 6 month olds if they had a poor diet when they were little.
 

jessica

New member
Joined
May 7, 2007
Messages
163
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Display Name
Jessica J. Miller
hey

Um...Please correct me if i'm wrong...but axos and fish are COMPLEATLY differant and they should not pass anything between them.

Your axolotls will be fine with out feed for 2 days. There is a pet store in a city near me and they always have axolotls. She gets in axolotls and selles them with in a month...and doesn't feed them at all! They look a bit slow toward the end, but are still perfectly find after 1-2 weeks.

As with live food...what temp do you keep your axolotls tank at? If it is below 19-20, tropical fedders will soon become sick. if it IS blow 19, Try getting some thing like zebra danios or barbs.

hope this helps
Jessoca
 
K

kim

Guest
Sharon, hand feeding is really cool!! Ive been doing it since the day i got them!

What i tend to do when feeding bloodworms (frozen&live)to keep the water clean is take them out (the axos'that is)and put them in a smaller container. I break the cubes up into smaller chunks (mouthful size) and then wiggle it in front of there faces. Sometimes it can take a while for them to grab it but just keep trying.

When i feed them heart i cut it up into mouthfull size as well but i leave them in there tank for this as its not really messy then i just wiggle it at them.

Sometimes tho i do end up with Spunky on my finger! It doesnt hurt and he soon remembers that he cant get my finger in his mouth!

Its really cute as they have got used to my hands in the tank they always come up to say hello and sometimes even a nibble!

My Axos' tank is noramlly at 19-20! I know this isnt a great temp but i cant seem to get it down anymore other than a frozen bottle or 2 floating in the top. Any ideas on cooling... and i cant get a air con system!

I have been told by quite a few people that Axos' can pick up parasites and diseases very easly from there food is this true?

One more thing! Im really not sure what type of feeder fish to try, as i know loads of them like barbs are gill nibblers and i dont think Spunky and Jynx would like that. Not sure about Mollies tho, but something i know is that guppies dont!

Anyone else?
 

michael

2010 Research Grant Donor
Joined
Apr 12, 2003
Messages
3,271
Reaction score
74
Points
48
Location
Ephrata,Pa
Country
United States
Display Name
Michael Shrom
Hi Jayjay,
You said to correct you if you are wrong so I will. According to "Developmental Biology of the Axolotl" by Armstrong and Malacinski pp 268 and 269 Some fish related parasites that axolotls get are Hexamita, Opalina. Costia, and Trichodina. I'm sure their are more.
I wouldn't recommend using barbs as feeders. They can take the low temperatures but are notorious nippers. I think most axolotls would have trouble chasing down a danio.
Axolotls will nip at each other if they go 1 to 2 weeks without feed. A couple days shouldn't be a problem. Just feed heavy before you leave.
 
K

kim

Guest
Thank Michael!

I would like to give them some feeder fish just so they can try and catch it... they must get bored in the tank all day lol

They have plants and rocks but you know what i mean, just something to keep them happy!
 
C

clarence

Guest
I've had good luck with BABY danio, but the adults are far too flightly to be fodder. In fact, they lost all fear of the axos, and the axos all but stopped snapping at them when both parties realized that adult danio are just to quick.

I like using baby feeders, if only because it keeps the water clear of any insect larvea that might otherwise arise.
 
K

kim

Guest
Ok thanks for all the help!

One more question, im in England where on earth do i find feeder fish that hopefully dont have parasites and diseases.

Cheers!
 
C

clarence

Guest
Well, there's always a risk of parasites. I go to a local petshop that keeps and breeds their own feeders for both sale and in-store use. I've gone there for years and never had problems. Look for petstores in your area that do the same.

Similarly/alternatively, you could try raising your own.
 
K

kim

Guest
Just an update,

my mum has a tropical tank and one of her Mollies has had babies, i put two of them in the tank the other day and they were gone in oh about a second(but mum wont let me have any more boo hoo)

So i went to my pet shop were i got Spunky and Jynx from... and they had a selection of about 20 baby and adult guppies(they did me a very good deal only £5!) and they also sell a plastic tank divider with holes in so no need for another filter.

So what i've done is taken a section of about 3-4 inches off the end of the tank with the divider and put them in there, its great as i now have food on tap for them. And guppies are very easy to breed and go in cold water!

They said if they over breed they will have them back which is great!!

And the most funny thing is to watch spunky and jynx looking through the plastic at them... they cant wait until i put a couple in for them!
 
S

sharon

Guest
I wonder if I were to drop a breeder net into the axo tank, load it with guppies, if the axos would be clever enough to find their way over the top???

I've got the net, I've got the guppies, I should try it....

Sharon
 
K

kim

Guest
hey Sharon,

Since i put the guppies in with a see-through divider they both sit there and watch... when the fish move they move! lol sooo funny to see!

When ive got a few more babies i'll start feeding them to the axo's
 
K

katy

Guest
I don't think guppies will breed in cold water. They're a tropical fish and while they will happily live in colder temperatures, they need the warmer temperatures to breed, as far as I know.
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
  • AlexisJG:
    As long as they don’t seem stressed that’s good and I mean hey if their well fed maybe they’ll live long happy lives together.
    +2
    Unlike
  • HalfDrunkToast:
    oh ya they are happy xD every time i come in to my room my Koy betta is like HI HI HI and actively swimming around
    +1
    Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    Calgarycoppers has left the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Nerodia1:
    Děkuji za přijetí. Hledám tohoto obojživelníka, Typhlonectes compressicauda, nevíte, kde ho získat, nejlépe někde v Evropě.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    Caudex has left the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    VEEK has left the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Lanalotl:
    My axie is acting woerd he was a rescue as stated in a different post he got better and now seems to be deteriorating again...again all tank conditions are OK and as should be. He seems to have some black dapple like pattern under his bottom lip? Is that normal? And his two back feet have a little wierd growth? Almost? Tiny tiny tiny lump. His capillaries in his feathers also appear darker and more visible. Any help would be appreciated
    +1
    Unlike
  • Lanalotl:
    Hes a leucistic axie
    +1
    Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    AmphibiGirl has left the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Dibgame:
    Hey guys. First time on this forum and im not sure what formatting i should use but hey here i go.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Jadezoey:
    Hi! I'm being in a hard position where I have to re-home my axolotls. I'm moving out and I would like to find them a new home with someone who can take proper care of them
    +1
    Unlike
  • Jadezoey:
    I have an adult wild type and a juvenile leucistc
    +1
    Unlike
  • Unlike
  • BigAl:
    Oops my bad accidentally sent that
    +1
    Unlike
  • Binditheaxolotl:
    @HalfDrunkToastLol
    +1
    Unlike
  • AxieMomma87:
    is anyone online???
    +1
    Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    Calgarycoppers has joined the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • Unlike
  • Chat Bot:
    Calgarycoppers has left the room.
    +1
    Unlike
  • AxieMomma87:
    Are you still here
    +1
    Unlike
  • ZayneSantos:
    Is there anyone on who can give me advice?
    +1
    Unlike
  • Max2445:
    @ZayneSantos, What advice do you need
    +1
    Unlike
  • KrabzAga:
    based on this video what type of salamander might this larva be? I suspect either eastern newt or spotted salamander
    +1
    Unlike
  • KrabzAga:
    help appreciated
    +1
    Unlike
  • KrabzAga:
    they are from missouri
    +1
    Unlike
    KrabzAga: they are from missouri +1
    Top