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Live food that can just live in the tank with alpine newts?

thaddeusp

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Are there any live food options that I could just drop in my tank once a week and the two newts there can just eat as they please? Been doing frozen bloodworms but they never seem to eat when I first put them in then I have a hard time getting them out before they rot.

Probably just gonna buy some fishing worms from Walmart and keep them in my fridge if not. I feel like it’d be cool to recreate the wild tho and they just hunt down something when they feel like it. But not that important, i can do Walmart worms if that sort of food doesn’t exist in an easily managed way.
 

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I have blackworm living in the sand. They aerate the sand for me & are an occasional snack for the newts.

I also have cyclops that they'll eat occasionally, and ramshorn and pond snails that breed constantly & the newts eat the babies happily. There are shrimp as well & they'll stalk them but I've only seen one get caught.

Some daphnia are also breeding in there but not quickly so they're probably getting eaten.

White worms live for a few days in water, I culture them & it's really easy. The newts get fed them a couple of times a week, frozen daphnia, bloodworm, brine shrimp the rest of the time.

Their tank is pond style with about 75% plants, so lots of critters are happily living in there 😊 they clean up any leftovers so minimal cleaning is needed, just a small water change & top up every few weeks.
 

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I also have gammarus & water louse in there, the newts love them but they're great at hiding so are gradually increasing from what I can tell.
 

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I'd throw in A LOT of low-grade cherry shrimp and provide a ton of cover, moss, driftwood and piles of rocks for hiding. My newts can catch some but there are always some shrimp that are fast enough to escape. If I could do it over, I'd let a shrimp colony get huge and established and then add newts.

I've never had any luck with daphnia or blackworms surviving in my tank. They get eaten pretty quickly.

This may be controversial for many people here, but I keep my alpine newts with a small school of white cloud mountain minnows, and I see the newts hunting newborn fish all of the time. In 7 or 8 years, I've only had three fry survive into adulthood in the tank. The newts will "crawl" through the floating plants hunting them. I was surprised when I saw it happening.

Good luck.
 

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I'd have no hesitation about white cloud minnows, I don't have them with my newts because I have a 4ft tropical tank as well & for some reason want to keep fish just in that one. Not sure why though!

It's cherry shrimp I have with the newts, I have clear, blue, red & black & they really stand out.

The black worm bury in the sand with an end sticking out, it's great seeing the newts stalking them!
 
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    Hey guys, its way too hot where I live right now. Temperatures 40 degree celcius outside, making it like 30 degrees inside. Ive got ice packs on my yellow spotted salamanders hidey rock, he acts like he hates it though. Am I keeping him too cold? I think my temp gauge might be messed up, or at least in the wrong spot. I put the tank temp gauge in the top left corner of his large tank, where it says its 80 degrees fahrenheit, which I am aware is too hot, which is what makes me put the ice packs on his rock at the bottom of the cage, but the bottom of his cage feels a lot cooler tha 80 degrees. Should I move my temp gauge down to the bottom corner where he hangs out the most? Should I get a soil temperature probe so I can tell what temperature the soil that hes laying on is?
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    Because his soil is certainly not 80 degrees fahrenheit, and I dont want to freeze the poor bugger with ice packs if he really doesnt need them. Hes been doing fine, but Im just so stressed because I cant get ANy information on how to handle this little guy. Theyre illegal to keep without a permit, but this one would not have survived without my intervention. So I cant call and ask anyone for help. If theres a betetr site than this one, I sure havent found it. But I never get any replies here. We are all just asking questions and getting none answered basically. Its really frustrating as I just want to help this little dude be happy and healthy. All I can get him to eat is potato bugs as well. I cant find anything else that he will eat. Is that even okay? :/ hes been eating strictly those since may first.
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    Does ANYONE know of a site more active than this where I can get my questions answered? My little bud needs help and Im just not getting it here.
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    Alright well I bought a bunch of stuff for his tank and hope it helps. Im getting extremelty frustrated that bI cant get an answer. Guess buddies just gonna have to die or some shit. like wtf why cant I get any help.
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    Second of all, was you who said you wild caught your salamander? And had Authorities threaten to retrieve it from you?
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    Third of all, assuming thats the case, no one seems to want to face the reality that these animals come from climates and microenvironments where they need to be kept cool. If you can't hack, then release it where you pulled it from.
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    he was dying outside. SO SORRY i was nice enough to save him. can i even release him in wetaher thats 40 degree celcius? will he not just die outside because he cant dig through the hard ground?
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    The ONLY reason I spent 500 dollars on this thing was to keep him alive. thats IT. He was completely dry with cracked skin and couldnt walk and I nursed him back to health. Now I should just throw him outside on the hard baked ground where I found him? in my driveway? Really dude?
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    I am losing patienc ebecause I care. Because I cant get any answers in any length of time that will actually benefit him. He'll only eat potato bugs, I just want him to have good rest of his life. Thats IT. So dont act like I went out an dillegally trapped some poor salamander out of the wild for fun cuz I wanted one.
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    I am very sure he was just trying to pass by, because he certainly cant dig ANYWHERE in the soil ANYWHERE near where I live. So I cannot just release him in 40 degree celcius on the super hard baked ground where theres no shelter and no food and now ater to be seen for miles. I dont see how that wioll help him at all.
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    @FragileCorpse, Watch your language please.
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    What did I say sorry? What word?
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