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Hi everyone!
I had my two Axolotl for about 4 weeks (they are still small, around 3/4 inches), and they have been doing great, I did a water test today and it was perfect!
The only problem that I have, is that in a real long time (around 2/3/4 years) I want to move away from where I live right now (Italy) and go live in Japan, but don't know anything about how to transport my Axolotls... I don't actually even know if they are legal to own in Japan.
I know that I need the CITES documents (which I do have for the both of them), but don't really know what to do afterwards (like how to box them with oxygen, how to quickly restart to cycle the new tank, how not to stress them and etc...), and if it even possible to do to begin with!
I've seen this video that shows how to bring fishes and corals, but I'm not sure if it works the same with Axolotls.
Here the video:

Anyway thank for the help everyone, I really appreciate it!
 

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I am not sure about the legal or security standpoint of flying fish, but I know the answers to a couple of the other questions! To make the trip as calm and safe as possible for them, I would pack them up in bags with oxygen like pet stores do. You could put them in an insulated box or cooler with an ice pack to keep the temps good. To quickly cycle the tank in your new home, just use the same filter media you used before the move. So you would have a bag for each axolotl and a bag for the filter media.
 

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Oh, I see, but won't they run out of Oxygen? The trip is on average 12 hours long, do I need to do anything else to put oxygen inside their bag or will that be OK?
Anyway thank for all the help!
 

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Try to find Oxybag (2 bags, 1 per axolotl).
The bag breathes without losing water
 

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Can you give me a link please, because I'm not 100% sure if those that I found on internet work.
Thank for the info tho!
 

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Ahoj,
Ahoj všichni!
Měl jsem své dva Axolotly asi 4 týdny (ještě jsou malé, kolem 3/4 palce) a vedou skvěle, dnes jsem udělal vodní test a bylo to perfektní!
Jediný problém, který mám, je, že se za opravdu dlouhou dobu (asi 2/3/4 roky) chci odstěhovat z místa, kde právě žiji (Itálie) a jít žít do Japonska, ale nevím o tom nic. jak přepravovat mé Axolotly... vlastně ani nevím, jestli je legální vlastnit v Japonsku.
Vím, že potřebuji dokumenty CITES (které mám pro oba), ale opravdu nevím, co mám dělat potom (například jak je zabalit do krabice s kyslíkem, jak rychle restartovat a nastartovat novou nádrž, jak nestresovat je atd...), a pokud je to vůbec možné udělat pro začátek!
Viděl jsem toto video, které ukazuje, jak přinášet ryby a korály, ale nejsem si jistý, jestli to funguje stejně s axolotly.
Zde video:

Každopádně děkuji všem za pomoc, moc si toho vážím!
Hi, How did you get CITES doc. for them?...and is it possible to arrange CITES doc. for axies in México to take some from México to home?
 

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Oh, I see, but won't they run out of Oxygen? The trip is on average 12 hours long, do I need to do anything else to put oxygen inside their bag or will that be OK?
Anyway thank for all the help!
People ship axolotls for 3 to 5 days in the mail, and they do fine. The biggest problem you will be running into is not letting the bags pop!
 

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If you don't have CITES papers for the animals, then it's a no-go I'm afraid. Almost no one has CITES documents for their animals.
 

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If you don't have CITES papers for the animals, then it's a no-go I'm afraid. Almost no one has CITES documents for their animals.
I do have the CITES documents for the two of them, does that mean that I can do that?
That was the first thing I asked (if they had CITES documents) once I found them in the Pet Shop I usually go, and they immediately gave me the CITES documents once I bought them!
 

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Ahoj,

Hi, How did you get CITES doc. for them?...and is it possible to arrange CITES doc. for axies in México to take some from México to home?
I asked the Pet Shop if they had them, and they gave me the documents of the Axolotl once I bought them.
I guess that if you don't have the documents, you have to ask from the people you bought, if they still have them... or you can ask to the Forest Service of where you live (I'm not sure how to translate into English), if they can give you permission (but I think it can be dangerous).
 

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People ship axolotls for 3 to 5 days in the mail, and they do fine. The biggest problem you will be running into is not letting the bags pop!
Oh I see, well I guess that the best way to prevent the bag to pop, is to add some soft things near to it!
 

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Oh I see, well I guess that the best way to prevent the bag to pop, is to add some soft things near to it!
Putting the bags in something like a box or a cooler and padding them with something soft (I imagine paper bedding could work quite well. Though shredded packing paper would too) will help them not to pop. You just don’t want them loose somewhere in case they get bumped or dropped!
 

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Hi everyone!
I had my two Axolotl for about 4 weeks (they are still small, around 3/4 inches), and they have been doing great, I did a water test today and it was perfect!
The only problem that I have, is that in a real long time (around 2/3/4 years) I want to move away from where I live right now (Italy) and go live in Japan, but don't know anything about how to transport my Axolotls... I don't actually even know if they are legal to own in Japan.
I know that I need the CITES documents (which I do have for the both of them), but don't really know what to do afterwards (like how to box them with oxygen, how to quickly restart to cycle the new tank, how not to stress them and etc...), and if it even possible to do to begin with!
I've seen this video that shows how to bring fishes and corals, but I'm not sure if it works the same with Axolotls.
Here the video:

Anyway thank for the help everyone, I really appreciate it!
Also, you can double or triple bag them!
 

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I do have the CITES documents for the two of them, does that mean that I can do that?
That was the first thing I asked (if they had CITES documents) once I found them in the Pet Shop I usually go, and they immediately gave me the CITES documents once I bought them!
The pet shop can't give you the CITES documents you need. You will need CITES export and or import papers for your own export and import. Your best bet is to sell them and buy new when you get to Japan.
 
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  • melon:
    I think it is always best to get them out asap but probably two days or so.
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  • Shane_Yogurt:
    its around 3 small pieces in the tank. Since i've just moved homes, my axolotl is still at my old house. Yesterday i fed him bloodworms and he missed a few. I couldnt get them out without a turkey baster and decided to let them sit because i was gonna move him to the house tomorrow. But now its late and I dont have a car and my dad wont drive me. Will he be fine?
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  • melon:
    I would think so i would just try to get them out tomorrow
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  • Shane_Yogurt:
    yeah, im heading over tomorrow morning to move him to this house and feed him. Thanks for the help!
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  • Shane_Yogurt:
    So my axolotl tank cycle just crashed and while i was in the middle of a water change my bucket overflowed and spilled water all of the ground in my brand new home. This is going super well 👍
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    ooff
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    good luck recycling the tank!
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    do the classifieds still exist?
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    nevermind! off my game tonight
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  • Shane_Yogurt:
    Im so frustrated right now. My axolotl WONT eat and my tank still isnt looking too good. Some extra stress i needed.
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    Sorry to hear that Shane. Did you post about it?
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  • Shane_Yogurt:
    No, I havent. Im not really sure why he wont eat. Hes in a 1 gallon tub and still a juvenile. When i offer food he swims away from it. Does he need some extra time? or is this something I should be worried about.
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    Hello everyone! I’m new in this world and i need some advices please! I have 2 axolotl babies and currently the water from the tank is from bottled water ( all parameters are good) but i want to change 50% of the water with city tap water. My question is how to change it? Do i need to get axis out, do the change, add the prime, wait (how much?) until its dechlorinated or i can add the tap water directly into the tank with axis in it, and add the prime conditioner? Thank you!!
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    1. You dont need to take them out of the tank to change the water as long as you pour it in slow as to not rattle them around too much
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    2. add the prime to your tap water, for most conditioners the consensus is 5 minutes of waiting time
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    3.After 5 minutes it should be safe to add
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    Thank you so much !!
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    I private messaged you a bit clearer instructions just in case
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    Where can I get blackworms?
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    Ebay or Eastern Aquatics
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    Does anyone know someone who can ship axolotls to hawaii? I recently did a water change and my axolotl died and there are no axos for sale right now.
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