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Hello all.

My name is Jeff, and I'm an architect in Los Angeles. As a child and young teen, I used to ride my bicycle to a nearby reptile store, Exotic Life, in the San Fernando Valley. I had many small (always inexpensive) fish and lizards growing up. I remember my geckos, and Carolina Anoles. One of my favorites was always my Cynops orientalis, Fire Belly Newt.

Now that I am in my mid-30s, I told my wife about the Cynops, which instantly fascinated her. Thinking they would still be $4-6 each at the local pet store, I agreed that we can go pick one up. Little did we know at the time about the importation restrictions and the scarcity of those little guys. It was a mission to find them though, and by some miracle, in a dingy old fish store we found a guy who still had one left, and apparently didn't know about the scarcity, because it still sold for $4.

Flash forward about 2 years. We upgraded Nigel's tank (yes, Nigel the Newt) to a 10 gallon aquarium, and decided to plant the tank with water grasses, mosses, and spider wood in a Japanese aquarium style. aquariumarchitecture.com has some beautiful examples, which we were trying to do the amateur version of. Unfortunately, a few days before the new tank's water had cycled and we could introduce him into his new place, Nigel escaped and has never been seen again. We discovered some small gaps in the built in cabinetry, along the floor, that cannot be accessed by anything over newt size, which we believe he went into. We have two cats, and they are both still alive, so we are confident they did not eat him. But it has been over a week and all of the dishes of water we placed all over the apartment are still empty.

Little did we know the escape artistry of the Cynops orientalis. There are many "escaped newt" posts in the forums we've now seen. But we would like to try again, having learned a hard lesson. I know there are some Reptile Conventions and other shows that move around the country. Would you all see this as the best chance to find these little guys? At this point, we would love to buy two. Any suggestions? Of course my budget will move way above $4, and will pay any going rate.
 
I am not sure what the legalities of owning newts/Salamanders are in CA, I think you can do a search on that. I don't know of any reptile expos in your area, but many people do sell at expos. Your best bet would be to keep an eye on the forum for sale section, and see what you can pick up that way. Good luck!
 
Thanks for the welcome.

To my knowledge, there's nothing wrong with owning the newts in CA, but the newt travel ban has been tough for our state for some reason. No breeders to speak of at least for Cynops orientalis in CA. I have tried contacting all the aquarium and reptile stores I can find, contacted supplier companies to see if they might have a lead, and have tracked down some conventions (there are a few later this summer). I will also keep an eye on the FS section, and, when my privileges are sufficient, post on the Wanted section.

I made a joke to my wife, two years ago when we purchased our first Cynops orientalis, that we may have gotten the last fire belly newt in LA. Now, I think it was actually right. We have been so sad since he got away. He had so much personality for such a little guy.

My mom is originally from Wappingers Falls. Small world. I'm not sure how long her family lived there, but I believe she was there for the first 20 years of her life. She comes from a family of 13 kids. I think they moved to Colorado in the early 70s though.

-Jeff
 
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