Nominate C. ensicauda (belly loops)

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While I've seen this type of belly pattern (black donuts with orange filling
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) with C. pyrrhogaster before, I can't recall seeing it with Cynops ensicauda (including C. e. popei).

I caught this nominate C. ensicauda on Amami-Oshima Island and was about to return it to the pond when its vent caught my eye
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Typical belly patterns for this subspecies can be seen here:

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(Message edited by TJ on September 25, 2005)
 
Dorsal view of same -- also atypical:

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Tim,
Just curious. Do the japanese view belly patterns and amount of gold speckles on Cynops ensicauda popei the same way as they view their Koi? Was wondering if Japan does something like what the chinese does.

Koi as you know are valued by the marking on their backs as well as their colours, thus, i wonder if it happens to newts there?
 
Terry,

I don't know a thing about koi, actually, but I think Japanese newtkeepers are no different from newtkeepers anywhere in tending to favor more colorful and otherwise distinctive animals over plain ones. And yes, highly speckled popei fetch much higher prices than plain ones.

The one pictured above is not a popei though, I hope you realize
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(Message edited by TJ on September 27, 2005)
 
It took me a while to work out what you were on about Will... but then I saw it.
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That's Ralph's pic by the way - sorry Ralph, hope you don't mind!
 
Well, while I think the similarity is tenuous, I must say William, you do have a very sharp eye and I'm impressed at your having spotted that newt's 26. That's hilarious!
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So what does it all mean?is Is some sort of code? Are the salamanders trying to tell us something? For clues as to the significance of the number 26, check out: http://www.wisdomportal.com/Numbers/26.html
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Mark, I don't mind at all, as long as it stays in the "caudata family".
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No, I didn't notice it before. Currently I am checking all the other patterns. Wonder what I'll find, maybe the lyrics of a lost Robert Johnson song.
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Here's the kind of C. pyrrhogaster pattern I was comparing that on the above pictured C. ensicauda ensicauda to.

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This one is a Kanto-type C. pyrrhogaster from Ibaragi Prefecture.

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Here's another such pattern on a different C. pyrrhogaster (lost track of origin... Niigata?)

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