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Hi, I’m hoping someone can help me. I moved apartments and brought my 1 year old Axolotl with me. At the old apartment he was fine. I have always treated the water with a stress coat and quick start. Tank is 10 gallon. I let the water filter through with the coat and quick start for the same length of time I always have. When we moved the temperature dropped about 6deg F. I know temperature change is generally not good, but his water temp was getting too warm in the old apt so I thought this would be ok. Last night when I put him in the tank he was fine, but today he is very lethargic. Has been in one spot all day, for about 10 hours. His gills and arms/legs are moving, and his coloring is normal. I have not tried to feed him today but he are bloodworms last night like normal. I am scared that the water I got from the tap (and then treated) maybe is harmful to him. Please let me know if anyone has any advice, I am scared for him. Photos of him currently and the treatments I use attached. Thank you in advance.
 

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If your water is treated, you need to use a dechlorinator. API Stress Coat contains aloe vera which is toxic to axolotls. You also need to feed them a diet of earthworms and carnivore pellets.
What are your parameters (pH, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, temperature)? They're largely ambush predators, so it's nots uncommon for them to sit in a single spot all day. I'd definitely suggest adding a hide large enough for the axolotl to fit inside of if you don't have one already, and a larger tank.
 

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Hi, I’m hoping someone can help me. I moved apartments and brought my 1 year old Axolotl with me. At the old apartment he was fine. I have always treated the water with a stress coat and quick start. Tank is 10 gallon. I let the water filter through with the coat and quick start for the same length of time I always have. When we moved the temperature dropped about 6deg F. I know temperature change is generally not good, but his water temp was getting too warm in the old apt so I thought this would be ok. Last night when I put him in the tank he was fine, but today he is very lethargic. Has been in one spot all day, for about 10 hours. His gills and arms/legs are moving, and his coloring is normal. I have not tried to feed him today but he are bloodworms last night like normal. I am scared that the water I got from the tap (and then treated) maybe is harmful to him. Please let me know if anyone has any advice, I am scared for him. Photos of him currently and the treatments I use attached. Thank you in advance.
1) a 20 gallon tank is the bare minimum for an axolotl. 10 gallon tanks just do not offer the water volume necessary to maintain stable water chemistry.
2) The only water conditioner/dechlorinator I ever recommend for axolotls is Prime by Seachem. Aloe is a common ingredient in many products designed for fish and is harmful to axolotls.
3) Your water parameters are very important, especially since you have moved and, I'm assuming, drained the tank. Test your water parameters and let us know what readings you are getting.
4) Axolotls are very sensitive to changes in their environment so its not uncommon for them to seem a little "off" after a move like that. If he is eating, that is good. However, as madcaplaughs mentioned, bloodworms are not the optimal food for adult axolotls. Not only are they messy and can really throw your water chemistry for a loop, they just are just not the best nutrition-wise. Earthworms, specifically european nightcrawlers, are the best. Followed by soft carnivore sinking pellets. I also give repashy grub pie as an occasional treat.
 
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  • Junaz:
    Thank you, I appreciate it. I'll look up ammonia and nitrate lockers, and see if I can find someone who can help me with cycling the tank with her in there. She still is looking and acting ok so I hope everything turns out ok. Thanks for the advice
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  • madcaplaughs:
    Hey @Junaz. It appears your tank is uncycled. You'll need to purchase a source of ammonia (i.e., Dr. Tim's Aquatics ammonium chloride) to cycle the tank with. Dose the tank up to 2ppm (bottle says 4 drops/gal=2ppm. This is false. 2 drops/gal=2ppm) daily until you've build up a bacteria colony that is able to convert 2ppm of ammonia into 0ppm ammonia and 0ppm nitrite in 24hr. You'll want to tub your axolotl immediately and while you cycle as these levels are extremely toxic. To tub, just use a food-grade tub large enough for the axolotl to extend itself and turn around in, and perform daily 100% water changes. Make sure your water is dechlorianted (and make sure your dechlorinator has no aloe or iodine, both of these are toxic to axolotls). If you have any more questions about cycling or axolotls, PM me :)
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  • Chamoxnle:
    My new axolotl enjoys floating. He doesn't seem stressed, or like he's being forced to float. He just likes to chill at the top. Why do some enjoy floating around? Most of my other axolotls are content staying stationary, but this one just continues to move, only stopping to eat. Again, he doesn't seem stressed, and it's not a fretful swim.
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    Hi, Im fairly new to keeping axolotls. I have to lil buddies that I got a few months back. They were doing fine, up until a month ago when one got fungus in his gills. Took him out to fridge him, then the other guy got it too. I'm currently fridging both and doing salt baths for one (not enough fridge space to keep that much pretreated water for both at the same time). Its been hard to tell if its helping or not and then about a week and half ago one of my axies had a bunch of weird white goop in the water. I immediately changed it, happened a tiny bit again, then seemed to be okay. I had returned him to the tank, but it happened again. Back to the fridge but wanted hear from people who knew more
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    I have pictures. Tried looking through other peoples questions, but couldnt find the same white goop.
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    @Kailynom My cousin (who i got my baby axies from) had the same problem. She developed an allergy to the bloodworms she was feeding them and it got really bad. To the point where her throat would close up just being around the bloodworms. Happened within a few months. Be safe :)
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  • madcaplaughs:
    @MadamePirateOwl Fridging is best left to life-or-death situations, and salt baths are unnecessarily harsh, stressful, and abrasive. I'd suggest doing tea baths instead (using caffeinated black tea, where the only ingredient is black tea).
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    so no idea what the goop is?
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  • madcaplaughs:
    Hard to tell without a photo, but might be algae or fungus floating. Water changes will take care of that.
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    It definitely came from the axolotl. Looked to be mixed into poo the first time. Can I post the photos here?
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    Im not actually sure how i would post it. It seems to want a link
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    Its fairly thick and chunky
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    (Also thanks for your patience and help!)
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  • madcaplaughs:
    You could always upload the photo to imgur and link it back here
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    The second image was how it looked the first time, it was mixed with some other poop like stuff. after that its been small and without the poopy stuff
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  • madcaplaughs:
    The second photo looks reminiscent of partially-digested worms, though I've never seen anything like that. Have you checked your parameters lately?
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    Right now theyre in smaller tubs that i do daily water changes in
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    I'll admit Ive bought test strips but they havent come in yet
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    I use Prime to dechlorinate the water, which was recommend by the girl I got them from
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  • madcaplaughs:
    For now I'd tub the axolotl and do daily 100% water changes until you're able to test your parameters
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  • madcaplaughs:
    I'd also recommend ordering a liquid test kit such as the API Freshwater Master Test Kit since strips are generally unreliable and inaccurate.
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  • MadamePirateOwl:
    Okay, thank you for your help and advice :)
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    anybody growing tylototriton?
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