Remaining T. shanjing eggs

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I still have over twenty eggs that have not hatched yet. However the larvae appear to have their front legs already. One hatched yesterday with its legs intact.

Any advice on what I should do? No one else hatched today. I am not at work today but will be there tomorrow to take care of them.

Thanks Guys
 
P.S. My other female appears ready to lay and the female that laid these eggs a month ago looks to be putting weight on again.
 
Are you sure these are T. shanjing, not T. verrucosus? The "prolific" factor suggests they might be verrucosus, though I am just speculating based on what I've heard.

I don't think hatching with front legs is a problem - it just means they will begin eating sooner, probably as soon as they hatch. I did have one batch of axolotls that I "helped" get out of their eggs, as they seemed too developed to be still stuck inside. But it was probably not necessary to do that, I think they will hatch when ready.
 
Thanks for the advice.

You can see the pic of one of the females and we are pretty certain that they are shanjing.

I am sending a private message to you to explain my concerns.

Thank you

Rachel
 
Hello All,

Four more of the eggs hatched yesterday but the other were getting extremely developed so I helped them all out and they were all fine. Some started eating only a short time after hatching. So now I am the proud foster mother of 48 larvae!

Thank you again to all those who gave advice (and will in the future
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). Especially Michael Shrom who even had to endure a phone call, and Jennifer Macke, who sympathised with my jitters.

Thank you again and I will keep all updated on their progress.
 
Congratulations, I hope they do well for you...........if you get some time, throw some pictures up, would love to see the larvae!

Anthony
 
I'm glad you've got them eating, that's the first hurdle. Good luck!

And yes, from the photo, they are shanjing. You are surely the envy of many folks on this forum.
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Thank you Chip.

I have been taking video of them since they began developing in the egg, and the other day I got one of them jumping at some brine shrimp. I am going to continue filming through their development so as soon as I can transfer it from digital-8 to my PC then I can post some of the footage.

All the Best

Rachel
 
I should also have some stills that a colleague will be taking over the next few days.



(Message edited by dragonwalker on June 30, 2006)
 
So I noticed you mentioned they are not yours? I assume you mean the adults are not yours, and the eggs were given to you? Either way, sounds like you will be doing a marvelous job documenting the whole development process which is very exciting for all of us.

Keep us updated, and if the larvae are indeed yours, definitely let us know how your own breeding attempts pan out in the next couple of years!
 
Do you have any information you can share about the breeding conditions, Rachel? What were the temperature parameters for the adults over the past year? What does their setup look like?
 
Firstly, to Kyle, I take care of them and am in charge of their protocol, but they aren't mine because I am zoo keeper and so they belong to the zoo.

In regards to getting them to breed.

I decided last spring to start giving them seasonal changes. I am lucky where they are because they are close to the doors to the atrium, and although they are behind the glass in a hallway with some heat, they get some of the cooler temperatures so it worked out well.

Their winter temps were probably ranging from the mid to upper 50's into the 60's. Once a week the temps are written down when water tests are done so that would give a general idea and I can get that info to you. As spring approached the temps warmed up to a more consistent temp of mid to upper 60s.

I also went on a naval website that gives all the sunset and sunrise times of places all over the world so I set their lighting patterns from Yunnan Province in China (it may seem a little extreme but as they were wild caught then I thought that this might be good.

Thirdly, I have the setup with a third of the tank gravel and then a piece of plexi seperating this from the dry side. In the winter I kept only a small amount of water in this, probably an inch deep on one side and then as spring approached and I saw the temps going up after a cold spell, I gradually filled the water deeper and misted them once, and then twice a day, also placing cling film over half the dry side to keep in the humidity.

That was basically it. The problem is, is that the weekend when she was ready to lay a leak occurred through to the dry side and flooded the moss and that is where she lay her eggs.

So, I basically went by their natural cycle. I am doing the same with some Western Toads but so far no luck.

All the Best

Rachel
 
Very interesting, I do hope you have a lot of success with Shanjing...........and very interesting with the their placement at the zoo, there seems to be quite the selection of zoo keeper on this forum. Anyways, good luck Rachel!

Anthony
 
Ah! Thank you so much for the info, very insightful - you really went above and beyond with it obviously paying off congrats!

I'm a keeper myself, and I definitely can appreciate the amount of thought you put into these guys. Although it is rather obvious, it's not always the first choice - Congrats once again.
 
I thought that you must be a fellow zoo keeper, hence your image! As a keeper you must appreciate the frustration though of not being able to care for them daily and although I was on vacation this week I went in on Monday to extract the last 33. The lead keeper at work took some pics and I noticed some of the young are missing parts of their tails. I need to emphasise that these guys need to be fed early and often.

Oh well, I get to play with them tomorrow. I am temporarily in another area of the zoo also (we have to work in all the other animal care areas for at least 160 hours) so I have been trying to get down to see them AM and PM, and lunch if possible.

Take Care

Rachel
 
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