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Sad News...

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lane

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Well,

We released 9 of our Amphiuma's...

After getting in touch with everyone I possibly could, including the official herpatologist for the state of Arkansas we found that there were no legal loop holes for our goal with Amphiumas.

If you remember we wanted to try and captive breed them.

Anyway, there are no "official" rules or statutes for Amphiuma's so they fall under the general category that says you can legally possess up to 6 but you can not attempt to legally breed... If they happen to on accident you have to release the babys back into the wild.

He seemed to not be entirely concerned with the fact that we had 11, (of course I didn't lie) but he justs stated the laws to me and he said if we were caught we risked a fine up to $5000 and possibly jail time and so as you can imagine, neither of those options were appealing to either of us.

While I personally loved our animals, Lane was their main care taker and he grew particularly fond of them so giving them up was very hard for him to do... He actually cried tonight. It was heartbreaking all around for both of us.

We decided to let them go rather than to attempt to sell because we knew in our hearts it was the right thing to do (as opposed to illegally sell them). We loved them and we wanted them to have the best life they could have and we know that it's in the wild. So we took the $330 loss... that's how much 10 of them cost us.

We still have 2 lesser sirens and 2 smaller amphiumas left. We plan to keep these and are concidering turning the 180 gallon into a multi-species native tank.

For those of you who are opposed to mixing species, I understand why, I respect your opinions and heed your advise and warning, but we are still concidering it. You don't need to tell us all the reasons why this could be a potential disaster and we are of course taking that into concideration, so no need for you to waste time or energy explaining anything... We know... I was just being honest.

Damn fish and game...
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I know, they are just doing their jobs...

So we've decided we're going to take up anther interest that is "legal"... we're going to be breeding hairless guinea pigs! That will be exciting.

Hope everyone and their large aquatic salamanders... and even the other ones are doing good.

Jennifer
 
I'm sorry Jennifer (and Lane) =(

Oh god, those hairless things are ugly!! lmao =P
 
Lane and Jennifer I am very sorry to hear this! I know how attached you can get to animals, especialy large aquatic salamanders like me and my mudpuppy.

Look at the brightside, at least you still have 2 sirens (i thought you only had one??) and 2 small ampiumas which will one day grow to imense sizes.


As far as keeping the left over 4 animals in the 180 gallon this is what I think:

2 amphuimas in the 180
2 sirens in the 180
1 siren and 1 amphiuma in the 180 (i know that this is mixing but a 180 gallon is a large tank)
Maybe: 2 sirens and 1 ampiuma in the 180

I don't think the number of salamanders should exceed 2 or 3 in the 180. Let us know once you figured out what you are going to do with your 4 LAS.

LAS- Large Aquatic Salamanders
 
Well I'm pretty sure he's decided against the multi species native tank... because he feels like the nitrates will get to high and harm the animals. We now already have 3 canister filters on it and he says it's not enough.

Currently we have the 2 amphiumas, a baby snapping turtle, like 10 musk turtles and some fish....

As for the siren situation, lol... I was trying to get away without having to talk about the fact that we now have 2 sirens... We found a siren HOT SPOT... Big time hot spot... In about 2 hours we saw over 15 sirens. They were amazing. We saw tiny babys to the biggest lesser siren we've ever seen but we only managed to catch one. I know that a lot of people here don't support taking from the wild and I didn't want to create any drama.

So that's why we have the 2nd siren. Of course we do not plan on taking any more, but may go out to the same place just to see some more in the wild and even try to catch a couple just to check them out. We do lots of hunting for snakes, turtles and amphibians in the wild. Not for harvesting, but more for enjoyment.
 
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