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Salamandrella keyserlingii

froggy

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Hi all,

Here are a few phone pics of my juvenile Salamandrella - I didn't breed them, but intend to breed from these once they mature. At the moment they are between 4 and 5 cm long.

They seem to feed best and be most active at about 15C. Higher than 17C and they start looking stressed. At the 8-10C that they are kept at now, they are still quite active, but eat less regularly. I have finally found an upside to my shoddily built back door (rented property), which keeps the floor area around it at 5C without insulation and 8-10C with a draught excluder.

They will take almost any prey items, but particularly like small earthworms and crickets. When they are hungry they can put on quite a turn of speed to catch a cricket, particularly when kept at 15-16C.

I keep them in a glass tank that is slightly tilted (maybe 10 degree slope) with paper towel covering 2/3 of the floor. The uncovered end is the lowest end, which is filled with cold water until the paper towel becomes soaked by capillary action. On top of the paper towel I lay a sheet of moss and some dead leaves. The sals burrow into the moss or hide beneath it or the dead leaves. They occasionally go into the shallow water and will take live bloodworm while they are there.
This is how I raised Hynobius dunni juveniles (though at warmer temperatures) and seems to work well for juvenile hynobiids.

A couple have a slight kink in the tail, which they had when I got them. The kinks are slowly straightening out with an earthworm heavy diet.

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Azhael

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I´m now diabetic of the eye...those things are way too adorable. Oh, they look so chubby and nice...
As FSM is my witness i will get baby Salamandrella from you some day (when i finally develop enough insulation and resistance to move permanently into a huge fridge -i´m half way there already-).
 
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    Hey guys, its way too hot where I live right now. Temperatures 40 degree celcius outside, making it like 30 degrees inside. Ive got ice packs on my yellow spotted salamanders hidey rock, he acts like he hates it though. Am I keeping him too cold? I think my temp gauge might be messed up, or at least in the wrong spot. I put the tank temp gauge in the top left corner of his large tank, where it says its 80 degrees fahrenheit, which I am aware is too hot, which is what makes me put the ice packs on his rock at the bottom of the cage, but the bottom of his cage feels a lot cooler tha 80 degrees. Should I move my temp gauge down to the bottom corner where he hangs out the most? Should I get a soil temperature probe so I can tell what temperature the soil that hes laying on is?
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    Because his soil is certainly not 80 degrees fahrenheit, and I dont want to freeze the poor bugger with ice packs if he really doesnt need them. Hes been doing fine, but Im just so stressed because I cant get ANy information on how to handle this little guy. Theyre illegal to keep without a permit, but this one would not have survived without my intervention. So I cant call and ask anyone for help. If theres a betetr site than this one, I sure havent found it. But I never get any replies here. We are all just asking questions and getting none answered basically. Its really frustrating as I just want to help this little dude be happy and healthy. All I can get him to eat is potato bugs as well. I cant find anything else that he will eat. Is that even okay? :/ hes been eating strictly those since may first.
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    Does ANYONE know of a site more active than this where I can get my questions answered? My little bud needs help and Im just not getting it here.
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    Alright well I bought a bunch of stuff for his tank and hope it helps. Im getting extremelty frustrated that bI cant get an answer. Guess buddies just gonna have to die or some shit. like wtf why cant I get any help.
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    Second of all, was you who said you wild caught your salamander? And had Authorities threaten to retrieve it from you?
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    he was dying outside. SO SORRY i was nice enough to save him. can i even release him in wetaher thats 40 degree celcius? will he not just die outside because he cant dig through the hard ground?
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    The ONLY reason I spent 500 dollars on this thing was to keep him alive. thats IT. He was completely dry with cracked skin and couldnt walk and I nursed him back to health. Now I should just throw him outside on the hard baked ground where I found him? in my driveway? Really dude?
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    I am losing patienc ebecause I care. Because I cant get any answers in any length of time that will actually benefit him. He'll only eat potato bugs, I just want him to have good rest of his life. Thats IT. So dont act like I went out an dillegally trapped some poor salamander out of the wild for fun cuz I wanted one.
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    I am very sure he was just trying to pass by, because he certainly cant dig ANYWHERE in the soil ANYWHERE near where I live. So I cannot just release him in 40 degree celcius on the super hard baked ground where theres no shelter and no food and now ater to be seen for miles. I dont see how that wioll help him at all.
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