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Sexing CB 2019 Juvenile Tylototriton yangi

Dragonfire

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Does anyone know if the cloacal sexing method works on juvenile Tylototriton? I have two 2019 offspring from Seth's (@sde 's) breeding which are now about 3.75 inches from head to tail tip. Externally one individual is considerably more heavily built, and the exterior of the cloaca is slightly different in terms of shape and pigmentation. The confusion arises when the cloaca is slightly opened, as per images on the tylo sexing thread here they both distinctly appear male. Another keeper with 3 individuals from the same breeding also reported their newts appear all male when using the cloaca to determine sex. I am currently considering trading to another keeper with a female if the presumption these are both male proves true, but I would like confirmation beforehand. Photos of both newts are attached below, and photos of the cloacae will be provided soon.
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Lighter bodied animal shown above, heavier individual shown below
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Here are some better photos. Fatter newt shown above, thinner below.
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I agree with your assessment - both male.

Hopefully the breeder didn't sort the offspring by size, color, or any other criteria. This can result in messed up sex ratios, as all the smaller ones, or darker/lighter ones, might be male. This kind of thing is a problem with some species, but I don't know if it's a problem for Tylos or not.
 

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Yeah honestly I've heard both guesses from others and I'm thinking I just need to wait for maturity. I've talked to a few other keepers with these newts siblings that emerged from the water in late 2018/early 2019 and all appear male based on the cloaca
 

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As a quick update, these newts will be staying with me. I'd like to find a female for them if they do turn out male. I'm also keeping Tylototriton shanjing now and have five juveniles which are all doing fantastic.
 

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Wow, I can’t believe you found someone selling these. Croc newts are a holy grail herp in my book.
 
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    its around 3 small pieces in the tank. Since i've just moved homes, my axolotl is still at my old house. Yesterday i fed him bloodworms and he missed a few. I couldnt get them out without a turkey baster and decided to let them sit because i was gonna move him to the house tomorrow. But now its late and I dont have a car and my dad wont drive me. Will he be fine?
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    yeah, im heading over tomorrow morning to move him to this house and feed him. Thanks for the help!
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    So my axolotl tank cycle just crashed and while i was in the middle of a water change my bucket overflowed and spilled water all of the ground in my brand new home. This is going super well 👍
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    Im so frustrated right now. My axolotl WONT eat and my tank still isnt looking too good. Some extra stress i needed.
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    No, I havent. Im not really sure why he wont eat. Hes in a 1 gallon tub and still a juvenile. When i offer food he swims away from it. Does he need some extra time? or is this something I should be worried about.
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    2. add the prime to your tap water, for most conditioners the consensus is 5 minutes of waiting time
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