Question: Sexing Cynops Phyrrhogaster

[sammannell]

Hey I can't get any decent photos because of fast they move but was wondering if anyone could sex my newts? I thought I had it sussed but have seen some more sexing guide photos and am now very confused haha

 

[Jort]

The one on the first picture in the upper right corner looks a lot like a gravid female. I'm really no expert though.

 

[Chinadog]

The two in the round bowl in the first pic look like a pair to me, as Jort says, the female looks gravid. I'm not too familiar with Kanto, if that's what they are, but male pyrrhos generally tend to have a squarer cross section than females and much larger, rounder cloacas. They also normally have longer toes on their hind feet and sometimes a blue/purple tinge to their tails and flanks, but some races lack this last fearure.
If you pop them in a container with a clear bottom and get some good shots from underneath it should be a bit easier to tell them apart.

 

[sammannell]

Thank you both. The one I assumed was a male does have the longer toes and slightly bluish tail I just got confused because the gravid female has a large cloaca but does this come with being gravid?

 

[sammannell]

Ahh sorry just found this thread that kinda answers my question.. Believe it or not I do actually search the site before I post these annoying questions :errr:

http://www.caudata.org/forum/f46-be...232-female-c-pyrrhogaster-cloacal-change.html